#dev 2016-09-17

2016-09-17 UTC
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aaronpk whoa what is this madness https://google.github.io/styleguide/htmlcssguide.xml?showone=Optional_Tags#Optional_Tags
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Zegnat Not completely unheard of. Kroc of http://camendesign.com for one has been omitting optional tags for a long time.
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Zegnat Personally, I prefer to keep them in :)
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sknebel it's an interesting case, since it evolved from "hacks" to be able to deal with badly written sites, and since the browsers had the code anyways they just allowed it in the spec as well. at least that's my impression ;)
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sknebel now if non-browser parsers all can deal with all facets of it...
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Zegnat sknebel: I thought SGML specifically supported optional tags? No hacking about it.
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Zegnat But maybe I am remembering wrong.
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sknebel Zegnat: not sure, I thought at least some of these rules were new with HTML5. Or maybe I'm confusing it in contrast to XHTML?
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Zegnat HTML did already not comply 100% with SGML (again IIRC), and HTML5 just standardised how to truly parse it (as SGML parsing woulnd’t get you there).
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Zegnat But I don’t think optional tags were invented in the HTML5 parsing spec
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Zegnat I admit, it has been a while since I looked at SGML though ;)
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KevinMarks Html5 documented and converged behaviour for missing tags
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tantek indeed
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Zegnat Am I remembering optional tags in SGML wrong then?
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Zegnat Or maybe those were just optional end tags...
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tantek <html> and <body> are optional
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tantek as is <head> I think
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