#dev 2016-09-30

2016-09-30 UTC
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AngeloGladding does anyone know the name of a service that provides hosted reverse tunnel?
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singpolyma ngrok
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AngeloGladding that's it
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AngeloGladding kicking myself for not coming here sooner
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AngeloGladding thank you
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress/Plugins (+95) (view diff)
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pfefferle good morning #indieweb-dev
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pfefferle GWG have you deleted the Webmention API implementation branch?
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GWG No, why?
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GWG I finished it.
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pfefferle GWG couldn't find it...
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GWG https://github.com/dshanske/linkbacks
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GWG There are some ideas I wanted to propose for the Webmentions plugin in it.
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pfefferle oh, once again a new plugin :)
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pfefferle you are confusing me :D
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GWG I sometimes do that when I want to break things.
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GWG This was wondering exploring taking over Pingbacks as well.
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pfefferle I saw that one... nice idea!
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GWG pfefferle, curious what you think of the implementation.
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pfefferle GWG I like the API part and I think we should use it for the Webmention plugin! But I am still unhappy with the misleading wording of the API URL rooting.
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GWG wp-json?
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pfefferle GWG yes
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GWG You can change it
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pfefferle Why not wp-api
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pfefferle yes, on my installation
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GWG But it changes for everything
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pfefferle wp-api would work for every implementation
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GWG I can prepare a PR for merge if you want.
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pfefferle the first implementation (OEmbed) ironically breaks the rule by also using XML
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pfefferle I would like to see that
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GWG pfefferle, I used it as a model
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pfefferle a model?
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GWG When I was learning the infrastructure API I read the oEmbed code
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pfefferle I like using JSON as the default, but it should allow other endpoints that are not JSON
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pfefferle otherwise we shouldn't use the API
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GWG It does, just using a filter
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pfefferle I know... but what are the WordPress folks suggesting?
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GWG I used it to return a Webmention form
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pfefferle yes, but do you know what the suggestion for the API usage is?
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GWG Jorbin was at IWC NYC2
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GWG He told me that allowing other return types was the intent
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GWG For future proofing
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pfefferle then wp-json is misleading and wrong...
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pfefferle and we can propose a change
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GWG Yes. At least they allow it to be changed.
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pfefferle sure, will start to change it by using a filter ;)
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GWG But I now have enough of a grasp of the code to implement things in it.
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GWG Do you have an opinion on the webmention form being re returned if the endpoint is retrieved with no parameters?
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GWG I played with the idea in June. Several people in the community do that
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GWG Oh, and pfefferle, the update comment filter got committed for 4.7
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pfefferle GWG I saw it! nice!!!
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-10-05-homebrew-website-club (+12) "fix a little markup balancing" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Planning (+244) "/* Berlin */ Small update on the possible revival of this IWC!" (view diff)
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@AMKBochnak “And that's the thing about people who mean everything they say. They think everyone else does too.” ― Khaled Hosseini #quote #indieauth... (twitter.com/_/status/781961825239916544)
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sknebel bear++ (borrowing code again)
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Loqi bear has 164 karma (5 in this channel)
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bear \o/
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bear sknebel - do let me know if there is anything I can split out to a library so our code is shared and not cut-n-pasted
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sknebel bear: will do once I've finished this and know what changes i've made
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bear coolness
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@aaronpk Just wrote about my first draft implementation of Private Webmention, a new extension to @W3C Webmention… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/781973995818143744 (twitter.com/_/status/781973995818143744)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /2016/Brighton/Demos (+9108) "Demos v1." (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2016/Brighton/Demos (+611) "add a brief description of mine" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /Private-Webmention (+254) "why" (view diff)
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sknebel sure
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sknebel do you invalidate auth codes or can they be used multiple times? how long are they valid?
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aaronpk mine are one-time use, valid for 60 seconds
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sknebel ok, then I have to build a more forgiving testing endpoint I think, that code is to buggy
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aaronpk hm yes it would be useful if webmention.rocks could send these for you
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sknebel got started on sending anyways, so mocking something shouldn't be to hard
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sknebel but i think I'll do that tommorrow and go sleep now, otherwise I'll want to finish it tonight and that's a bad idea
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aaronpk hehe yes
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aaronpk i gotta implement receiving but right now it's overwhelming for similar reasons to why sending was initially overwhelming
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aaronpk gotta figure out how to trim down the plan
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gRegorLove Re private webmention, since I send async I'm trying to decide if I should store a flag indicating the post is private when I add it to the queue, or whether the actual sending process should look at the source and determine it's private from the 401.
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gRegorLove Leaning towards the flag, since private posts will be in the minority, so would be fetching a lot of URLs unnecessarily.