#dev 2016-11-12

2016-11-12 UTC
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gregorlove.com
edited /2016/Berlin/i18n (+205) "dfn, categories, etherpad link"
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gregorlove.com
edited /2016/Berlin/pubsubhubbub (+36) "dfn, formatting"
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gregorlove.com
edited /2016/Berlin/community (+154) "dfn, categories, formatting"
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gregorlove.com
edited /2016/Berlin/indieactions (+31) "dfn, formatting"
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gregorlove.com
created /2016/Berlin/homepage (+665) "dump etherpad"
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tantek.com
edited /2016/MIT2 (-8) "Lanyrd"
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TheGillies
aaronpk: I don't think known likes media endpoint <p>Known experienced a problem with this page and couldn't continue. The technical details are as follows:</p>
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TheGillies
<pre>Fatal Error: /var/www/known/Idno/Core/Session.php:447 - "Call to a member function deniedContent() on boolean", on
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TheGillies
page tyler.cat/micropub/endpoint?q=config
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TheGillies
q?=config doesn't work on known
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TheGillies
er ?q=config rather
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aaronpk
hrm yeah it might not
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TheGillies
aaronpk: "While the entirety of p3k is not open source, I have open-sourced many of the components. I've chosen to provide components of my site rather than the whole thing because in reality nobody is going to want to use the exact same workflow I have built." Is that the real reason? Because I would argue the opposite
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aaronpk
That's definitely part of it
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aaronpk
also i don't want to maintain a whole open source CMS
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TheGillies
yeah maintaining stuff sucks
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TheGillies
aaronpk: It would be nice to have a suite that actually supported all the indieweb stuff properly though ;)
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk: you don't have to support a large CMS but you could simply open-source your site and say "fork it if you want"
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aaronpk
My stuff doesn't work all the time either ;-)
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aaronpk
KartikPrabhu: I appreciate the sentiment but in reality that's not how it ends up working :-)
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TheGillies
Is known the more mature indiewebinabox?
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aaronpk
That and Wordpress once you install the plugins
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TheGillies
anything but wordpress
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aaronpk
aww hehe
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk: yes, I have the same trepidation with my own site code and whether I should fix the mess that is /Bundle and open-source it
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TheGillies
I'll give it a go though
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aaronpk
With my 2016 rewrite of p3k I'm feeling much more comfortable with open sourcing the whole thing tho
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KartikPrabhu
what made you change your mind about that? cleaner code or something else?
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aaronpk
Yeah and a clearer path for updates
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aaronpk
i just updated indiewebcat.com to the latest from a several month old version and it was pretty seamless. So I'm feeling better about that now
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KartikPrabhu
I see. I'd actually like some one experienced write that blogpost ;) wink-wink-nudge-nudge
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aaronpk
I still have more to figure out :-)
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KartikPrabhu
everyone does, but I feel your experience with p3k and writing your own code could help some of us who are doing the same thing.
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KartikPrabhu
same with tantek
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KartikPrabhu
from your own admission I feel that open-sourcing your site is a big responsibility and so it would be useful for someone like me who is not a dev to know why/how
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TheGillies
Installed in under 10 minutes
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TheGillies
so much muscle memory heh
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aaronpk
That was fast
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aaronpk
with the plugins too?
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TheGillies
I don't even know which ones exist heh
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aaronpk
Im sure the wiki could be improved in that regard, feel free to make edits :-)
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TheGillies
I'll update as I go along
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TheGillies
ok first plugin down
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TheGillies
"Post kinds"
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TheGillies
and micropub is now live
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GWG
Someone was talking WordPress?
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KartikPrabhu
would be a good idea to have a indie-wordpress installation? i.e. wordpress simply installs with some basic indieweb plugins? can that be done?
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TheGillies
might be a good idea
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TheGillies
don't have any experience with wodpress distros
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TheGillies
although installing these plugins is taking me less than 5 minutes
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GWG
As far as I know, there is no way to do that.
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KartikPrabhu
me neither. hence asking
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TheGillies
although I might not be a good benchmark for the average user
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GWG
Dependency management is also a sensitive issue
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: so there is no way to say "install wordpress with these plugins" ?
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GWG
Not that I know of. But I'll look around.
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GWG
That is why we came up with the plugin installer idea in the Indieweb plugin.
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GWG
Always looking for feedback on any given plugin and how they interact though.
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TheGillies
Congrats! You've successfully authenticated as http://wordpress.tyler.cat/
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TheGillies
GWG: Is there a wordpress webmention bookmarklet
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GWG
TheGillies: A bookmarklet to do what?
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Loqi
[Ryan Barrett] IndieWeb Press This bookmarklets for WordPress
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TheGillies
What I was looking for
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GWG
Okay. That isn't a webmention.
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GWG
That wouldn't work with Post Kinds, but it will work in general.
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TheGillies
wordpress fails for media endpoint as well
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TheGillies
maybe I need another plugin
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GWG
The WordPress Micropub plugin doesn't have a media endpoint.
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GWG
It isn't strictly needed
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TheGillies
for what I'm trying to accomplish i need a media endpoint
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TheGillies
it's why I started down this road heh
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TheGillies
Because it doesn't work on kown
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GWG
Sorry.
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TheGillies
are there any indieweb suites that support it?
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TheGillies
Or does aaron live on an island?
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GWG
Island
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TheGillies
because that's wordpress and known that don't work which are supposedly the most mature
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GWG
No one is against putting it into the WordPress plugin. It just isn't required, so no one was interested.
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TheGillies
no worries
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TheGillies
I might hack it in to a PR once I figure out how to program php heh
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GWG
TheGillies: I've thought about it. But I have so much going on...
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