#dev 2016-11-18

2016-11-18 UTC
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@MUP4 bye bye les gros médias https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/PR-webmention-20161101/ (twitter.com/_/status/799434292505939970)
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@mikejamesuk //No Comment - TV Control, Geolocation & Webmention APIs http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/10264-no-comment-tv-control-geolocation-a-webmention-apis.html via @Iprogrammerinfo (twitter.com/_/status/799510351251406848)
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pfefferle good morning
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Loqi good morning!
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GWG Morning
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Loqi morning!
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@Flavio58 //No Comment - TV Control, Geolocation & Webmention APIs http://i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/10264-no-comment-tv-control-geolocation-a-webmention-apis.html (twitter.com/_/status/799582756413919232)
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@Flavio58 //No Comment - TV Control, Geolocation & Webmention APIs http://ln.is/i-programmer.info/ne/0fP56 (twitter.com/_/status/799582789041410049)
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cweiske !tell aaronpk http://webmention.org/ returns 500
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG I feel stalled in some of my projects.
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cweiske no fun anymore?
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cweiske then don't to them
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GWG Not no fun.
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GWG I feel like I hit a wall.
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cweiske how so?
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GWG I did that last year with a project and came back to it.
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GWG I just can't translate my vision
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GWG Last year, it was that I wanted to switch to SVG icons and couldn't figure out how to work it neatly.
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GWG Now I am on another project I stalled on last year for location and I am afraid my approach is wrong
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cweiske maybe it helps to talk about your approach here
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GWG Well, I use WordPress as my platform
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GWG I have been trying to add venues.
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GWG And I have had trouble figuring out the easiest to implement UI for it.
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cweiske venues for any post?
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GWG Yes. But the venue would be an object independent of post.
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GWG So, I would need to be able to edit that independent object within the post UI and separately. Which means it requires a bit more on the UI than normal.
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GWG And the most logical way to save a venue inside the post UI is JavaScript.
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GWG So the page doesn't have to reload. But my JavaScript is limited
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GWG So, now we get into using WordPress tools to interact with JavaScript...a whole other level of stuff.
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cweiske then lower your expecations/goal
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GWG And in the end, it will be better than what I do now, but it is annoying to add
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GWG I did, and I hate how it works.
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cweiske so there are 3 issues:
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cweiske 1. creating a new venue
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cweiske 2. selecting an existing venue
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cweiske 3. modifying an existing venue
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cweiske you could create new and edit existing venues in a separate view, which would limit implementation to 2 only
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cweiske which is easy
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cweiske in the next step, the venue selection field could automatically create new venues if no existing venue is selected
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cweiske this would require an autocomplete field which allows input of non-existing entries
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cweiske what's the current UI you hate? do you have a screenshot?
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GWG You've seen the WordPress post UI?
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aaronpk good morning
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Loqi aaronpk: cweiske left you a message 37 minutes ago: http://webmention.org/ returns 500
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aaronpk that's odd cause it's just a redirect to github. it's not my domain tho
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cweiske GWG, the normal wordpress one
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cweiske I've not seen any indieweb plugins for wordpress yet
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GWG cweiske, this is just on top of that.
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cweiske could you show a screenshot of the current location UI you have?
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miklb GWG might I suggest you look at CMB2 for your post meta field work. Takes a lot of work out of adding custom fields. There are even some ajaxified examples out there
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miklb also supports REST API in latest release
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GWG miklb: I would use a library but I hate plugin dependent on other plugins. WordPress stinks at dependency management.
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gRegorLove This seems ... dangerous https://blog.lesspass.com/lesspass-how-it-works-dde742dd18a4
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gRegorLove Does anyone have experience using Keeweb (desktop)? https://keeweb.info/
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gRegorLove I was thinking of using it, but found it used to be using Math.random to generate passwords. Since fixed, but still makes me wonder about it overall. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11174014
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plindner Also see https://getvau.lt/ which has been around forever..
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gRegorLove Looking for something to share password databases cross-platform and remotely.
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gRegorLove I know there's tons and tons of ways to mess this up, heh
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gRegorLove Thanks, plindner
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gRegorLove Oh, it's the same thing. Heh
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plindner yeah, I saw lesspass and thought -- I've seen that before
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aaronpk i use 1password
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gRegorLove Does 1password work with teams?
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aaronpk oh
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aaronpk maybe i think
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aaronpk the new thing
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bear the enterprise does
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bear err enterprise version
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gRegorLove k
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aaronpk ah
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bear you can have person vaults and team vaults
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bear also ACLs for them
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gRegorLove Is 1password your recommendation, bear?
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aaronpk hopes it is
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bear I go with 1password or lastpass -- because it depends on what people are already using
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bear they both have good enterprise versions and are very sound
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bear we use 1password at circleci
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miklb GWG you don't have to include it as a plugin, you can just make it a library in your plugin. That's what I do.
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miklb GWG I just set it up as a submodule usually
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