#dev 2017-01-04

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aaronpk omg i did it
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aaronpk eep it's late
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tantek can you talk to your alexa now to do food posts?!?
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GWG Alexa, tell Teacup I drank too much coffee?
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aaronpk i can log in to grant alexa an access token to teacup
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aaronpk i had to build an oauth2 server into teacup first o.O
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tantek yikes
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aaronpk it's a clever way of doing it
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aaronpk at least they didn't make up their own thing
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aaronpk NOW i have it posting to my site
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aaronpk good thing i'm the only one who uses teacup. not gonna worry too much if it's not perfect.
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GWG aaronpk: I thought there were a few others?
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aaronpk apparently there are!
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GWG aaronpk: How many?
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aaronpk well technically 47 people have posted something to teacup
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aaronpk not sure how recently
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aaronpk wow 20 of those went to a micropub endpoint even
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aaronpk one even went to a tumblr blog via silo.pub
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GWG Who used it for more than one or two things?I know I tried it to see how it worked.
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aaronpk only me, indiewebcat and rhiaro are regular users
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aaronpk one person posted 7, a few posted 3, everyone else posted 1 or 2
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GWG I'm just not set up for ti
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aaronpk i don't expect many people to be interested
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GWG aaronpk: Not so sure. Calorie counting is popular
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GWG I still think Micropub needs a draft/private mode.
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aaronpk agreed
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aaronpk i'm about to try that out in quill actually
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aaronpk i finally added draft posts to my website
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aaronpk so now at least i can *have* draft posts, next step is making a micropub client set that property
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GWG aaronpk: If the property is adopted, I'd love to get it into wordpress-micropub
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aaronpk cool
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aaronpk that'd be great
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aaronpk it worked! \o/ https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/03/9/
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martymcguire[m] woohoo! i kind of want to give alexa karma but i also don't want to give alexa karma.
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tantek seriously you spoke that to your Alexa?
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Loqi yay!
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aaronpk i did! i have a video i'm gonna include in the post too :)
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tantek wow
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martymcguire[m] aaronpk++ for bending the internet of things to your will :}
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Loqi aaronpk has 22 karma in this channel (1169 overall)
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GWG aaronpk: What is the draft post property?
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aaronpk GWG: not sure yet. internally it's "p3k-status = draft"
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aaronpk oookay now that the alexa+teacup integration is launched i just have to blog about it now
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tantek even in time before CES
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tantek :P
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tantek #indiewebofthings :P
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GWG At the price Dots are going for...
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aaronpk i wish my apartment was bigger so i could justify getting a Dot!
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tantek what is a Dot?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Dot" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk Dot is a smaller version of an Amazon [[Alexa]]
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk what is Alexa?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Alexa" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk oops
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aaronpk i'm busy someone else go do that :P
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tantek yeah I asked that several times today :P
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GWG Alexa is the trigger word or name for the Amazon Echo service.
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk what is Amazon Echo?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Amazon Echo" yet. Would you like to create it?
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GWG Amazon Echo is a voice interaction service and associated hardware devices.
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Loqi ok
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martymcguire[m] aww, no "Amazon Echo is a silo for voice interaction"?
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GWG martymcguire[m]: I'm stirring food.
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GWG I'll elaborate later. But if you want to beat me...
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aaronpk it actually isn't really a silo since it doesn't store any data...
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aaronpk i can't create things that live inside their service
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martymcguire[m] (sorry for the gripes. any listening device with a centralized service provider rather that local processing is probably going to creep me out.)
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aaronpk ah well that's a different story
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martymcguire[m] aaronpk: "silo" is the wrong word, i agree. however, i recoil at the idea that amazon (or google, or apple) wants to collect, store, and do who-knows-what with my utterances and their related internet traffic.
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aaronpk i don't know if it's completely justified, but I do trust amazon more than google to act in my best interested in this regard
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martymcguire[m] and i do believe that if the service becomes unprofitable to run that they will shut down the service without making it easy for someone to create an alternative
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martymcguire[m] leading to dead devices
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aaronpk yes, bricking devices is bad, but it's very different from losing content that I've created
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GWG I think they've sold too many.
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martymcguire[m] of the choice of apple/google/amazon i think i agree that amazon probably has the best consumer protection. then again, they made a phone with four user-facing cameras to track gaze...
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martymcguire[m] agreed. i think my gripes are tangential to indieweb principles. :}
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GWG martymcguire[m]: Is that like four cupholders?
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martymcguire[m] if those cupholders are reporting to Amazon about the beverages you put in them and how you drive, then I suppose so!
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aaronpk oh man this is gonna be a long post
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aaronpk !tell tantek https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/03/10/day14-alexa-app
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Day 14: Posting to my Website from Alexa #100DaysOfIndieWeb
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GWG "Of course, I can't risk posting fake data, so I had to open a beer."
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aaronpk of course
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GWG It could have been a glass of water."
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aaronpk i don't track water cause i drink too much of it :P
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GWG When is the Indieweb flash briefing for the Echo?
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Loqi what
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GWG Anyone know anything about this? https://www.w3.org/TR/secure-contexts/#legacy
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aaronpk GWG: i want to make an indieweb flash briefing so bad
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aaronpk but that requires generating a lot of content
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GWG aaronpk: You want me to read This Week in Indieweb in my 'announcer' voice?
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aaronpk haha
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Loqi hehe
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GWG There was a Homebrew Website Club meeting on Wednesday, December 28th in Los Angeles, Nuremberg, Portland, and San Francisco....
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GWG aaronpk: Ever asked the Echo to sing you a song?
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GWG Hmm...how about this week in aaronpk?
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aaronpk i actually listen to the flash briefing quite frequently, and it annoys me when feeds update less often than daily!
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aaronpk and committing to daily indieweb updates is... a lot
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GWG Maybe we should aim lower.
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Zegnat What if a flash briefing?
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4mAs4EK2.jpg
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Zegnat s/if/is
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cweiske aaronpk, does pin13.net/mf2 use the php-mf2 lib?
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cweiske ah. "This output was generated from the php-mf2 library available at https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2",
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cweiske ok
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petermolnar hah! bing maps are significantly better for my photo location links: https://www.bing.com/maps?cp={{ post.exif.geo_latitude}}~{{ post.exif.geo_longitude }}&v=2&lvl=16&sty=a&sp=point.{{ post.exif.geo_latitude}}_{{ post.exif.geo_longitude }}_{{ site.url|urlencode() ~ '/' ~ post.slug|urlencode() }}
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petermolnar for example: https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=33.165072~103.906717&v=2&lvl=16&sty=a&sp=point.33.165072_103.906717_https%3A//petermolnar.net/sichuan-waterfalls-nourilang-waterfall-2
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petermolnar aerial map, location point shows the post url this way
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petermolnar it's pretty neat
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Zegnat Was this the ouput you expected petermolnar? I see no point: http://i.imgur.com/jy91Cut.png
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petermolnar interesting
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petermolnar oh, that was unexpected, complete system lockup
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petermolnar so, there should be a little start
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petermolnar star
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petermolnar with the url
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petermolnar I'll do a screenshot
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petermolnar interesting
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petermolnar it doesn't always work with sty=a
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petermolnar it seems to work with sty=r
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petermolnar ( road vs aerial )
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petermolnar http://imgur.com/a/L9Tw3
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petermolnar but it's pretty buggy
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Zegnat Ah, yeah, I did not get that :(
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@ChrisAldrich @ajspadial Awesome! Is your notebook accepting webmentions for collaboration too? I think of my site as a… http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/ajspadial-awesome-is-your-notebook-accepting-webmentions-for-collaboration-too (twitter.com/_/status/816690526166679552)
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tantek what is status update?
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Loqi tantek: aaronpk left you a message 17 hours, 33 minutes ago: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/03/10/day14-alexa-app
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "status update" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek fixing
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tantek.com moved /status to /status_update "really this thing"
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tantek what is a draft?
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Loqi A draft in the context of the indieweb refers to a draft post, a post that an author has partially written, or otherwise does not consider finished https://indieweb.org/draft
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aaronpk whee
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aaronpk yikes my web server is at capacity
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tantek which of your servers?
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tantek did your Alexa post get slashdotted/digged/hackernewsed/...
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aaronpk the one aaronparecki.com is on
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tantek maybe the botnets found you, now that you're openly experimenting with IoT
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aaronpk ha
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aaronpk great
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aaronpk oh hey i forgot i had implemented post visibility already
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aaronpk so i can make posts visible to certain people
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aaronpk i think i got half way through implementing that cause there's no way for people to log in yet
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