#dev 2017-02-15

2017-02-15 UTC
colintedford joined the channel
#
aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Facebook-create-for-pages.png]]""
#
aaronparecki.com edited /create (+40) "/* Silo Examples */ add screenshot of the facebook create interface for pages" (view diff)
miklb and KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
GWG What is the easiest way to take a set of parameters in a priority and return the first that exists in php?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "easiest way to take a set of parameters in a priority and return the first that exists in php" yet. Would you like to create it?
#
aaronpk maaayyyybe i need a word length limit for Loqi's "what is"
#
GWG aaronpk: Maybe
#
GWG aaronpk: Any suggestions though?
#
aaronpk not sure what you mean by "set of parameters in a priority"
#
GWG Given an array, if key x is set, return that. If not, check for key y, if not, key z.
#
GWG I'll give a use case.
#
aaronpk sounds like a pretty short function
#
GWG aaronpk: I was thinking there might be a more elegant way
#
GWG I do this all the time
#
GWG For example, I tried to map the reverse geolocation in nominatim to microformats
#
aaronpk function dothething($keys, $array){ foreach($keys as $k){ if(array_key_exists($k, $array)) return $array[$k]; } return null; }
#
GWG Yes, but when multiple things could map.
#
GWG For example...
#
GWG locality equals hamlet or village or town or city.
#
aaronpk ah yes i've dealt with that exact problem
#
GWG My current solution is messy. I was hoping to think of a nice way for me to do this in the priority I want to do it in.
#
aaronpk mine is not super pretty either https://github.com/aaronpk/Atlas/blob/master/p3k/Geocoder.php#L25
[acegiak_net] joined the channel
#
GWG Well, if you set an array in advance in order and run a function like the one you suggested above that breaks when it gets to the first one that fits...
#
GWG I suppose that would be slightly neater and easy to maintain.
KevinMarks, KevinMarks_, singpolyma and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] In php candidates you just say $locality = $hamlet | $village | $town | $city;
#
[kevinmarks] That seems clearer than making an array and running a function
#
aaronpk Well that assumes you have them in variables and that all the variables exist otherwise you get undefined notices
[eddie] and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] Ah, right, and PHP doesn't have something like python's d.get(key,default)
#
GWG See why I said that there was a solution that lacked simplicity and elegance.
tantek, KevinMarks, KevinMarks_ and cweiske joined the channel
#
@sl007 @joelpurra Nice ! Saw your CV - fyi : wrote indieauth for node.js last weeks, written in TS ... If knew before : We had an IWC in BER ... (twitter.com/_/status/831793459933614080)
jonnybarnes and sebsel joined the channel
#
@joelpurra @sl007 Thanks! Yay for node+TS; URL? Shame about missing the meeting; is there another? I should also add PGP indieauth btw =) (twitter.com/_/status/831826536571494400)
#
@sl007 @joelpurra Yep - https://indieauth.com/gpg - GPG indieauth-node was coded yesterday ;) (twitter.com/_/status/831839289264766976)
#
tommorris.org edited /Pinterest (+240) "adding WordPress-based POSSE" (view diff)
gRegorLove, singpolyma, KartikPrabhu, KevinMarks and tantek joined the channel
#
headcrash.ascraeus.org profile dgold created /10Centuries (+352) "prompted by gRegorLove" (view diff)
#
gregorlove.com created /10C (+25) "r" (view diff)
#
gRegorLove what is 10c
#
Loqi 10 Centuries(10C) is a blogging/microposting silo, similar in scope and intent to ADN, for posting notes(blurbs) of up to 1,024 bytes, and longer-form articles(blog-posts) up to 8,192 bytes https://indieweb.org/10C
#
gRegorLove what is adn
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "adn" yet. Would you like to create it?
#
gRegorLove What is app.net
#
Loqi App.net (ADN) is a microblogging silo similar to Twitter for posting notes of up to 256[1] characters in length https://indieweb.org/App.net
#
gRegorLove What is ADN
#
Loqi App.net (ADN) is a microblogging silo similar to Twitter for posting notes of up to 256[1] characters in length https://indieweb.org/ADN
#
gRegorLove adn is /app.net
#
Loqi ok
#
loqi.me created /adn (+20) "prompted by gRegorLove and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
#
gRegorLove what is adn
#
Loqi https://indieweb.org/adn
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
gRegorLove what is adn
#
Loqi App.net (ADN) is a microblogging silo similar to Twitter for posting notes of up to 256[1] characters in length https://indieweb.org/adn
#
gregorlove.com edited /10Centuries (+63) "stub, formatting, see also" (view diff)
[jeremycherfas], KevinMarks and singpolyma joined the channel
#
sebastiangreger.net edited /Twitter_Cards (+412) "Link to workaround for SSL Handshake Error on HTTPS sites" (view diff)
#
aaronpk oof that's awkward
#
aaronpk java really seems behind the times
#
aaronpk i've had that same problem with apple and amazon's java clients. i have to give itunes and amazon a non-https feed of my podcast
#
tantek wat
#
tantek that's messed up
#
aaronpk yeah they don't support SNI!
#
tantek and worthy of noting as an issue
#
tantek what is iTunes
#
Loqi iTunes is a service and application from Apple for music, video, podcasts, and other multimedia https://indieweb.org/iTunes
#
tantek or even Criticism frankly
#
tantek add it in the Criticsm section
#
tantek also what do you mean by "and amazon" ?
#
aaronpk also they don't support letsencrypt certs
#
tantek does amazon have a podcast client?
#
tantek ugh
#
tantek definitely note that please!
#
aaronpk no the amazon server that fetches my podcast feed for the Alexa service
#
aaronparecki.com edited /podcast (+304) "/* iTunes */ document apple's lack of good https support" (view diff)
#
aaronpk that seemed like a more appropriate place, since it wasn't really part of the iTunes desktop program
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
GWG Afternoon
[kevinmarks], KevinMarks_, tantek and KevinMarks joined the channel
#
gregorlove.com edited /next-hwc (+0) "next" (view diff)
arush joined the channel
#
gregorlove.com edited /Main_Page (-20) "/* Homebrew Website Club */ 2/22 and 03/08 HWC" (view diff)
#
aaronparecki.com edited /events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club (-42) "update cover photo with pdx's this week" (view diff)
#
ben.thatmustbe.me edited /HubZilla (+145) "/* IndieWeb Compatibility */ add webmention sending support plugin" (view diff)
singpolyma joined the channel
#
tantek aaronpk - you realize that's a past event right?
#
aaronpk yeah
#
tantek are you doing that for link-preview purposes? (I mean that seems sensible)
#
tantek also, it's a great photo
#
tantek would be good to use that for the 2017-03-08 cover photo
#
aaronpk no, it just seemed weird to have a cover photo with people who weren't at any of those events
#
tantek hah, yeah just KevinMarks!
#
aaronpk it makes a little more sense when the event is in the future
#
aaronpk but once it's in the past, it's awkward
#
tantek true!
#
tantek perhaps that's worth adding an as explicit step
#
aaronpk the grid one makes more sense to use as a cover photo because it doesn't look like it's a photo taken at an event
#
tantek I wonder
#
tantek I like rotating locations tbh
#
tantek the
#
tantek "small group of people" seems more inviting than a "grid"
#
aaronpk kinda
#
tantek and appearance of an actual venue gives more of an idea of what's going on
#
tantek what the "feel" of the event will be
#
aaronpk i feel awkward posting what looks like a photo of a specific group of people as a cover photo tho
#
aaronpk maybe if it didn't have faces it would be more appropriate
#
tantek interesting! I feel the faces make it more friendly!
#
aaronpk it just ties it so specifically to a point in time, which is not the point of the cover photo
#
tantek as opposed to blank outside of some building
#
aaronpk oh another way to make it more cover photo-y would be to add extra artwork on it. like a gradient, or icons or something
#
tantek does it? there's not much temporally evident in that cover photo
#
aaronpk then it woudl look less like a photo taken at that event
#
tantek (SF weather is fairly consisent year round ;) )
[jeremycherfas] joined the channel
#
tantek looks like it could be any time
#
aaronpk i think another factor here is that while this is trying to be a "cover photo", it doesn't actually bleed to the top of the page, so it kind of just looks like a regular photo
#
tantek what does donutjs use for featured / link-preview photos for their event posts?
#
aaronpk hm, no photos, just icons http://donutjs.club/
#
tantek huh
#
tantek no cover photos on event pages "bleed to the top of the page"
#
tantek even on FB, the blue toolbar is on top
#
aaronpk the FB toolbar looks more like a toolbar than our wiki header tho
#
aaronpk our wiki header is more like a "container" around the event
#
aaronpk whereas the FB toolbar is stuck to the top of the browser and does not "contain" the event
#
tantek yeah that's true, mediawiki kind of has two toolbars
#
tantek the user-specific stuff at the very top, then some blank space, then the page-specific stuff
#
tantek that's a good observation about FB's content design
sandro_ and [dgold] joined the channel
#
gregorlove.com created /events/2017-03-08-homebrew-website-club (+8414) "stub" (view diff)
KartikPrabhu1 joined the channel
#
gregorlove.com edited /events/2017-03-08-homebrew-website-club (-18) "/* Where */ update regions, display a couple more based on /2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club" (view diff)
#
sebastiangreger.net edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+234) "/* Getting Started or Need Restarting */ +Berlin" (view diff)
KartikPrabhu, KevinMarks and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] I liked the idea of sorting by faces detected
Guest3356, [eddie] and chrisaldrich joined the channel
#
calumryan.com edited /events/2017-02-22-homebrew-website-club (+363) "/* Where */ Adding London 22nd Feb" (view diff)
#
calumryan.com edited /events/2017-02-22-homebrew-website-club (+141) "/* RSVP */ Added London" (view diff)
[chrisaldrich], chrisaldrich and [eddie] joined the channel