#dev 2017-03-12

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sknebel woah, Loqi, which bot nest did you find there?!
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@jevdemon Password-less login is an interesting idea. It's too bad the author is apparently unaware of IndieAuth. https://medium.com/findworkco/password-less-login-df0354c3f3ee#.pnxmjbomu (twitter.com/_/status/840773596054134785)
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[kevinmarks] Looks clunkier than what I did for this. Why *require* retyping the token?
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jonnybarnes.uk edited /DNSSEC (+118) "Add an examples section" (view diff)
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jonnybarnes did I add an examples section correctly?
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calumryan.com edited /Progressive_Web_App (+45) (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /events/2017-03-22-homebrew-website-club (-11) "/* UK */ Adding London" (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /events/2017-03-22-homebrew-website-club (-18) "/* London */ Adding RSVP for London" (view diff)
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jonnybarnes.uk edited /DNSSEC (+17) "Add a dfn tag" (view diff)
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aaronpk i forgot about xray on appengine... is there an easy way to automate installing the letsencrypt cert on appengine?
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aaronpk ah they are apparently testing a new API to upload a cert
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aaronpk https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/35900034
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[kevinmarks] That's s long lived bug
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petermolnar recently saw a 17 year old bug in Thunderbird... "long lived"
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Zegnat Just move off of AppEngine, aaronpk. That way Loqi might finally learn to read my site ;)
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aaronpk heh
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aaronpk is that still a problem?
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Zegnat Yes, it still shows the weird timeout thing whenever you enter a licit.li URL
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aaronpk that's so weird
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aaronpk if i increase the timeout then it works
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Zegnat It does?! Then I really wonder why it is taking appengine so long. I don’t have any issues loading my site, at least
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@megarush1024 Still trying to nail down why WordPress isn’t receiving webmentions from Bridgy. I’ve double-checked all… http://www.arush.io/?name=43649 (twitter.com/_/status/840972310710484992)
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bnvk aaronpk: what are you doing of late to satiate your mad-science future thinking IRC-Slack hybrid desires?
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aaronpk hehe
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bnvk :D
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aaronpk i haven't really made any progress on that
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bnvk aaronpk: okie, just curious as I'm dipping back into hacking on this nodejs web IRC client :)
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aaronpk ah cool
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aaronpk lately my chat experiments have been fixing the Slack/IRC bridge here, and adding a chat widget to my website
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bnvk ah, how is that going? What are the components?
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bnvk are most users in here actually on Slack?
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aaronpk slack people here show up with [] around their nick
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aaronpk i guess it's been a couple weeks since I made the changes, but I expanded the Slack bridge to all our channels, fixed emoji mapping from slack :emoji: to real emoji characters, and made slack image uploads show up right in IRC
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/Slack-IRC-Gateway lots of details here: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/04/8/day-46-slack-irc-gateway https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/05/8/day-47-slack-emoji https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/16/5/day-58-slack-images
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bnvk ah as in [slack-user] ?
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aaronpk ya
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bnvk ah interesting, similar to Matrix's user[m] thing
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[aaronpk] like this
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bnvk I like your approach more actually- should try to get Matrix ppl to switch
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bnvk it's more clear that [something] is different about this user name, I think
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aaronpk i think i can actually probably remove the brackets completely once I get that project to handle IRC->Slack
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aaronpk (Loqi is doing IRC->Slack right now)
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bnvk huh
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bnvk that Loqi, such a good chap
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sknebel another oauth2 question: an authorization endpoint is allowed to modify the scopes granted to an application, and the client should pass them through? E.g. if I want to tell my micropub endpoint that a client app only can create a specific post type, I could add a scope indicating that? Or should I encode it in the token itself?
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aaronpk sknebel: the auth endpoint can modify the scope granted, and the token endpoint indicates the actual scope granted in the token response
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aaronpk it doesnt really matter whether that's encoded in the token, unless you want to be able to indicate to the client that a certain post type isn't supported
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sknebel ok, thanks
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aaronpk https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-4.2.2
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sknebel (mixed internals of how I'm doing things in the question, and thus got a bit confused)
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aaronpk my authorization server doesn't limit tokens by post type, but I can restrict which "channels" a token can post to. that's all opaque to the clients though
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sknebel ok, I think my confusion is cleared up, thanks
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sknebel yep, that's what my goal is as well, more or less (bunch of ideas, will see which ones are actually necessary)
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GWG Good day
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jonnybarnes just a quick shout out to aaronpk, I use Let’s Encrypt for my sites, and have a vhost on port 80 that just redirects everything to https
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jonnybarnes then I put the .well-known stuff in the sites vhosts and certbot still works
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aaronpk me too :)
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jonnybarnes lets encrypt follows the http->https redirect when renewing certificates
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GWG So, as of today, the development version of Webmentions and Semantic Linkbacks both have been changed to not strip fragments
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jonnybarnes obviousy if i ever add a new vhost with new domain I temporarily have to disable mt http->https redirect
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aaronpk ah yeah i don't want to have to do that, so i have a solution that lets me have everything configured all the time
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aaronpk also i have some domains i want to serve over http still
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aaronpk none of this helps for appengine tho ;-)
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jonnybarnes fair enough, I didn’t like having a http to https block in all my vhosts
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jonnybarnes it seemed a little redundant
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bear you don't have to with nginx
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aaronpk i actually have a "master" http->https for just the domains i have on letsencrypt with no other fancy stuff
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aaronpk with a bunch of names in the "server" line
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bear reference the server name using _ and use $host in the return
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jonnybarnes bear: what do you mean?
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aaronpk https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/1aa736efd18e6710c9feac0f61904b3a
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bear server_name _;
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bear return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
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bear that along with a listen 80
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bear will allow for any incoming port 80 to get redirected
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bear full version that also sets it as the default would look like:
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bear server {
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bear listen 80 default_server;
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bear listen [::]:80 default_server;
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bear server_name _;
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bear return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
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bear }
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jonnybarnes so I have on vhost that listens on 80 and does what you just typed bear, then all my other vhosts just listen on 443
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bear yes, to pick a nit - "vhost" isn't quite accurate for what nginx does - but it translates mostly
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jonnybarnes but aaronpk is doing something slightly different
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jonnybarnes what’s the correct term bear?
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jonnybarnes just curious
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bear aaronpk's uses a location header because he has the .well-known location to manage
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bear so you need a second location for /
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bear server is preferred because it conveys the notion that it will be listening on an socket
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bear but my shoulder pain is causing me to be more pendantic than normal - vhost is ok
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jonnybarnes okay :)
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jonnybarnes err, yeah, I have the http->https vhost listening on 80
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jonnybarnes then all my site vhosts are on 443, and include a .conf that defines the .well-known location
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jonnybarnes so certbot renew always works
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aaronpk i just let the certbot renew happen on http
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bear that's how I have mine setup also
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jonnybarnes then when I want a new domain I setup a vhost for the domain listening on 80 and include the same .well-known conf file
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bear fortunately I don't add domains all that often any more
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aaronpk ah yeah that's where my config saves me a step. I just add the new domain to that block I pasted above.
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jonnybarnes and remove the http->https vhost, run certbot, change the vhost to listen on 443 and point at php-fpm etc
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jonnybarnes and add the http->https vhost again
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jonnybarnes also I don’t add domains/sub-domains often
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bear jonnybarnes - if you list the domains in the servername field you can do it like aaronpk does and then it's a single edit step to add a new domain
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jonnybarnes also, that can’t have been fun when you first saw that warning screen aaronpk
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aaronpk heh yeah
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aaronpk i'm pretty pleased with my appengine trick this morning
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bear route around something?
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aaronpk had to build the challenge verification into the application so i could get a letsencrypt cert issued on appengine
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bear oh - that is a nifty hack
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aaronpk full writeup is here https://github.com/aaronpk/XRay/blob/master/HTTPS-SETUP.md
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bear aaronpk++ for great docs
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bear i'm glad LetsEncrypt allows for manual certs
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bear you would think google would work with them to automate certs
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bnvk aaronpk: XRay looks interesting- is it more of a API guzzler than a scraper?
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aaronpk bnvk: it's primarily an h-entry parser
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aaronpk and has support for some services like twitter and instagram. it scrapes instagram, but uses twitter's API
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bnvk ah, but has silo-API offerings as well... ok
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bnvk I see
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aaronpk basically all my apps use it now. Loqi uses it to show IRC previews of posts, all my comments and reply context are parsed by it.
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aaronpk all comments on webmention.io are parsed by it
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GWG aaronpk, I love xray
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GWG Or more specifically, incorporating pieces of it into other projects
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GWG Which reminds me...
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GWG arush, you the one with arush.io?
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petermolnar I decided to get rid of the redirect html files (meta redirect) and push the redirects directly into nginx
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petermolnar which sucks, because nginx needs root reload on config change
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petermolnar but it's fast and lets me get rid of a lot of symlinks and files
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petermolnar and also returns the correct http codes
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aaronpk there's nothing like .htaccess for nginx is there?
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sknebel no
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sknebel I probably would solve this by having a webapp that's only tried if there isn't a file found for the request, which then decides to return a redirect or a 404. Or adding a dynamic lookup inside nginx with lua.
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sknebel but generating nginx config also works
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petermolnar well, I already have magic.php fallback to try "magic" (replacing _ with -, due to historical changes which looks for matches)
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petermolnar I could drop that in there instead
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aaronpk i have a small php file that checks a text file for redirects
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aaronpk my text file looks like a bunch of lines like "/from-url /to-url"
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petermolnar this might be a better approach in the end, yes
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aaronpk it's technically way slower but meh
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sknebel even the images in my posts hit my python backend right now. for now it works :P
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sknebel (it doesn't serve the images itself, but still)
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bear with a bit of Lua you could get nginx to read from redis or a file to handle redirects
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