#dev 2017-03-22

2017-03-22 UTC
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tantek hey benwerd, not like you need more projects distracting you, but your place has some backyard space right? https://twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/843199195507019777
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@ValaAfshar This robot can grow all the food you need, on your roof terrace. http://wef.ch/2jLcUEq https://twitter.com/wef/status/831893499465330689/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/843199195507019777)
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tantek indiefarming anyone?
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tantek ownyourgroceries
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loqi.me created /reStructuredText (+297) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by [cleverdevil]" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2017-04-05-homebrew-website-club (+150) "+PDX" (view diff)
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@schmarty Just in time for HWC Baltimore tomorrow, my site finally displays Webmentions! https://martymcgui.re/2017/03/22/003710/ (twitter.com/_/status/844412077741608960)
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tantek martymcguire++ congrats on displaying webmentions!
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Loqi martymcguire has 1 karma in this channel (12 overall)
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@karenbwill RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.thejugglingauthor.com/indieauth/ Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 70 (twitter.com/_/status/844487540577107968)
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mey.vn edited /events/2017-03-22-homebrew-website-club (+17) "rsvp" (view diff)
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martymcguire[m] Thanks!
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ben_thatmustbeme launching all my inkstone changes to live finally
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ben_thatmustbeme editting, updating, and deleting support
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aaronpk woo
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loqi.me created /? (+18) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /group (+26) "emojicon" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] Should I reinstall inkstone?
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tantek likely, it's gotten some nice upgrades recently
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[kevinmarks] Given the installed apps bug mentioned yesterday
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[kevinmarks] Hm, post isn't doing anything
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loqi.me edited /safety_check (+20) "Zegnat added "[[safety status]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /Ask_If_Safe (+186) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /safety_check (+18) "tantek added "[[Ask If Safe]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Ask_If_Safe (+37) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /safety_status (+205) "/* Facebook */" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /on_this_day (+303) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ +eddiehinkle.com" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:FB X Years Ago.png]]""
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eddiehinkle.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:on this day.png]]""
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barryfrost.com edited /safety_status (+113) "Adding barryf's marked-as-safe example." (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /on_this_day (+123) "/* Facebook */ Added screenshot" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /safety_status (+112) "indieweb examples first, note FB POSSE copy, nested screenshots as FB specific" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com uploaded /File:rediscover_this_day.png "The mobile app also has a feature intermixed within their other stream-like features (albums, movies, animations, assistant, stylized photos) called "Rediscover this Day" in which they present a few photos from a particular calendar day (usually within a week of the current date X years ago). They also provide a link to an album of all the other photos taken from that particular day. One may have multiple cards in their stream covering various days X, Y, Z, ... years ago to cover different years in the past."
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www.boffosocko.com edited /on_this_day (+576) "Google Photos Rediscover this Day" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Timehop (+199) "list of data sources" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /Mark_Safe (+337) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Mark_Safe (+33) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Mark_Safe (+35) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Ask_If_Safe (+16) "tantek added "[[Mark Safe]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Ask_If_Safe (+591) "like a webaction, silo example, facebook description, options" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Mark_Safe (+134) "also like a webaction" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /safety_check (+100) "buttons" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu Loqi: messages?
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ben_thatmustbeme !tell KartikPrabhu i am not your errand bot :P
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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ben_thatmustbeme hehe
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KartikPrabhu ha! cancelled
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KartikPrabhu take that ben_thatmustbeme
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ben_thatmustbeme darn!
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gRegorLove aaronpk: webmention.io seems to be returning a 303 with the "webmention is currently being processed" response
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aaronpk is that wrong?
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gRegorLove I thought it should be 200 or 201.
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gRegorLove Tracking it down; could be a bug in my code. When I curl the webmention I get a 201 with Location header, JSON response body.
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aaronpk oh when you send it a webmention the response is 303?
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aaronpk whoa someone's sending a bunch of junk to it right now
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gRegorLove But the logs for my plugin are showing a 303 response code and an HTML body.
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aaronpk ah it sends a 303 if you send an accept html header
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aaronpk that's so that if you use the webmention form from a browser, you get redirected to the status page
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gRegorLove Aha
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aaronpk i figured the accept header would be a good switch for that
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gRegorLove I thought it might be something like that. I'll make a note to update my plugin.
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gRegorLove It's too strict in looking for 20x responses when 30x responses are also valid
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aaronpk well, webmention.io returning 303 is outside of the spec
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aaronpk but instead, if you send accept: application/json you'll get a 201
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gRegorLove Gotcha
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sknebel what do you do if there is no accept header?
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sknebel (do browsers render 201 responses? if yes, a redirect in there could be nicer)
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aaronpk i only send 303 if there is an accept header
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aaronpk i don't think there is any browser that doesn't send an accept header
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gRegorLove aaronpk: Is there a way to trigger a re-build in Travis CI without a new commit to github? Since this only happened with PHP nightly, I'm hoping it goes away: https://travis-ci.org/indieweb/php-mf2/builds/212386297
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aaronpk yeah i can rebuild it
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aaronpk running now
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aaronpk still failed. seems to be an error in phpunit
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loqi.me edited /domain_name_registrar (+132) "aaronpk added "https://medium.com/@ramshackleglam/hackers-stole-my-website-and-i-pulled-off-a-30-000-sting-operation-to-get-it-back-143d43ee3742" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /domain_registration (+22) "prompted by aaronpk and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /domain_registration (+12) "fix r" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com created /nextdoor (+805) "basic definition, see also" (view diff)
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tantek interesting read aaronpk
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aaronpk yeah it was a lot better than i was expecting given the headline :P
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Zegnat I wasn’t able to attend any HWC, but I started on my safety check page: http://vanderven.se/martijn/safe/ ! I finally did a thing again :D
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tantek whoa that's cool
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tantek Zegnat, your "Request an update." is definitely worthy of adding to /Ask_If_Safe as an IndieWeb Example!
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martymcgui.re edited /User:Martymcgui.re (+528) "/* Personal Site - martymcgui.re */" (view diff)
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tantek had to click the button ;)
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Zegnat Updated my safety status within 12 seconds, apparently ;)
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tantek If I click reload it warns me it is going to submit the form again
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Zegnat That’s always a problem with POST requests and browsers. Maybe I should put in a redirect or something.
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tantek you could also make the button require (and prompt?) IndieAuth
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tantek then you could do that thing like FB does where it says "A, B, C, requested an update"
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Zegnat This is really just the proof of concept of how I want it to function. It sends a high priority email to me with a link, when I click the link the timestamp gets updated. That’s all it currently does.
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tantek that's pretty slick
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tantek FB uses the term "Invited by you and 1 other"
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tantek e.g. "Invited by you and 3 others" etc.
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tantek or if it's just you
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tantek "You asked if he's safe"
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tantek or
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tantek "You asked if she's safe"
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tantek (and there's an [ Undo ] button to the far right)
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tantek so the states appear to be:
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Zegnat You can’t really undo sending me a request to update the timestamp. And that should never be necessary anyway. Never a good reason not to confirm I am safe.
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tantek "Not marked safe yet" -> "You asked if she's safe" -> "Invited by you and n other(s)" -> Marked herself as sfe
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tantek s/sfe/safe
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Zegnat Mostly I would not want to make asking about me hard, or require people to think about identifying themselves. If a relative is worried, they should just be able to press a button.
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gRegorLove Zegnat++ very cool
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Ask_If_Safe (+301) "Adding an IndieWeb Example." (view diff)
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Zegnat There you go, tantek ^^^
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Zegnat I am off for the night. I will be tweaking the styling and the prompts around the button tomorrow. If anyone has any ideas, do !tell me :)
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Zegnat Good night
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Loqi goodnight!
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loqi.me created /audience (+126) "prompted by KevinMarks and dfn added by KevinMarks" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /audience (+78) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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