#dev 2017-05-20
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vanderven.se martijn created /2017/Nuremberg/Schedule (+2229) "Created page with "'''<dfn>Schedule</dfn>''' for [[2017/Nuremberg|IndieWebCamp Nuremberg 2017]]. == Saturday May 20, 2017 == Day 1 is discussions in a BarCamp-like environment. Bring a topic you'd..."" (view diff)
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Zegnat Right, sebsel, note that you should start notes with * and get them list-based. That’s the idea with the etherpad template http://indieweb.org/etherpad#Etherpad_Template
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gRegorLove p-summary << [[summary]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[summary]]" to the "See Also" section of /p-summary
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# gRegorLove Want a webmention, j4y_funabashi?
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j4y_funabashi gRegorLove: I am just testing adding an author to my post permalinks, Loqi doesnt seem to pick them up
# j4y_funabashi gRegorLove: but a webmention would be great too :) hopefully it will show up here if you send one. https://j4y.co/webmentions
# gRegorLove j4y_funabashi: Is the h-card on your homepage inside the h-feed or outside?
# j4y_funabashi gRegorLove: h-card is inside the h-feed i think
# gRegorLove I'll have to refresh my memory of the authorship algorithm on that. It might require a u-uid or something
# j4y_funabashi aaronpk: ahh ok that makes sense - pin13 is showing the h-entry author
# gRegorLove Anecdotally, my reply-context *should* follow authorship pretty well and isn't finding your author info either
# gRegorLove What is authorship?
# Loqi authorship is a claim about who the author(s) of a post are https://indieweb.org/authorship
# j4y_funabashi gRegorLove: I have just tried to implement author algo and I understood it as: if author is a url, find the representative h-card on that page
# gRegorLove I think you need 7.3 or 7.3 here: https://indieweb.org/authorship#Determining
# gRegorLove *7.2 or 7.3
# j4y_funabashi gRegorLove: I think mine is 7.4
# gRegorLove Oh, hm
# gRegorLove No, there's no h-card on the h-entry page
# gRegorLove h-entry page = the note permalink, that is.
# j4y_funabashi the author of the h-entry is a url (author-page) which should then lead to 7 then to 7.4?
# gRegorLove In 7.4 "if the h-entry's page" that means the original URL, not the author-page.
# j4y_funabashi so I'm thinking it should satisfy 5.3 then 7.2?
# gRegorLove So it's getting to 7.4 and checking for an h-card on https://j4y.co/p/20170506185225_590e1b69240f8
# j4y_funabashi ahhh ok I missed the "h-entry page" part, my apologies
# gRegorLove No worries
# gRegorLove It's tricky. I always have to re-read it to grok it again
# j4y_funabashi yeah because 7.1 - 7.3 are about the author-page I totally missed the difference with 7.4, doh!
# gRegorLove I kinda wonder if 7.4 should be higher. I was watching aaronpk's mf sessoin today and he said something that sounded like that's how it should work, so it doesn't do another HTTP fetch
# j4y_funabashi so can I have an invisible link on posts that points to my homepage hcard?
# sknebel_ yep, that's how I do it. see the footer of e.g. https://www.svenknebel.de/posts/2017/3/9/ : "<a class="u-author" href="/" tabindex="-1"></a>"
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# gRegorLove The author link to your homepage is there already, that h-card needs either a u-uid or a matching rel=me I think
# j4y_funabashi ahh ok, so I need to add u-uid to this <a class="p-name u-url" href="https://j4y.co">Jay Robinson</a>
# j4y_funabashi bah, maybe cached
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cweiske aaronpk, I tried to login to webmention.io with https://cweiske.de/ as URL
# gRegorLove j4y_funabashi: Looks good! https://gregorlove.com/2017/05/this-is-a-test-reply/
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aaronpk bumps up https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth.com/issues/124 in the queue
# j4y_funabashi gRegorLove: huzzah! and I got yours https://j4y.co/webmentions \o/
# gRegorLove woo!
# j4y_funabashi gRegorLove: can you send homepage mentions? I *think* I have those working too now
# aaronpk PSA you can always use https://webmention.rocks to send test mentions to yourself
# Loqi The representative h-card for a page is an h-card on that page that represents that page, if any, as not all pages are about a person or organization, a page might not have a representative h-card https://indieweb.org/representative_h-card
# gRegorLove j4y_funabashi: Yep, looks like it worked too.
# j4y_funabashi gRegorLove: awesome!
# gRegorLove Looks like some javascript is getting pulled in with those mentions though, like dougbeal's subtome JS
# j4y_funabashi yeah next job - sanitize the content :)
# j4y_funabashi thanks for the help all, homepage mentions and added me as an author to permalinks. feels like a productive evening, now sleep
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "non-interactive IndieAuth" yet. Would you like to create it?
# sknebel_ non-interactive IndieAuth is a future way of using [[IndieAuth]] to [[authenticate]]/[[authorize]] services against other services, without a human user confirming things. Possible use cases include [[private-webmention]], bots editing the wiki and [[readers]] for private feeds.
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loqi.me created /non-interactive_IndieAuth (+306) "prompted by sknebel_ and dfn added by sknebel_" (view diff)
# gRegorLove The microseconds are odd.
# gRegorLove And probably not ISO off the top of my head
# gRegorLove Well, they're there :)
# gRegorLove What's the problem you're having, GWG?
# gRegorLove GWG: Very odd. If I remove one digit of precision from that timestamp, them DateTime works fine.
# gRegorLove So maybe limit it to 8 digits precision
# gRegorLove Gives you a more precise datetime value than "now"
# gRegorLove It's an issue with PHP's DateTime as a consumer
# myfreeweb you could strip the microseconds with a regex or something before giving it to datetime?
# myfreeweb heh my webmention broke a page https://unrelenting.technology/replies/2017-05-20-22-49-20 → https://jonnybarnes.uk/notes/Dr "Whoops, looks like something went wrong."
# myfreeweb https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=51950 "Not a bug"
# myfreeweb https://stackoverflow.com/q/4411340/239140
# myfreeweb ooh it was on /r/lolphp a year ago https://redd.it/3nz2hd
# myfreeweb where is DateTime called? in the plugin?
# myfreeweb so they've added ATOM/RFC3339/W3C to DateTime. but haven't fixed strtotime to recognize it
# myfreeweb it is the plugin's job to work around php's bugs
# myfreeweb they probably won't fix it and even then people use old php versions…