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gregorlove.com edited /webmention.io (+236) "/* How to Use */ === Display with javascript === Bret's webmention.js with caveat about needing work" (view diff)
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davidmead snarfed: I’m getting “No webmention targets” on Brid.gy for posts syndicated to Twitter. Webmention WP plugin is running and I’m getting webmentions for Swarm checkins through OwnYourSwarm. Any ideas what to check?
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davidmead snarfed: same for Instagram too
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GWG davidmead: What version of WordPress are you running?
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davidmead GWG: latest version - 4.8 I believe
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GWG Did you try Saving the Settings page?
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davidmead Which settings page? In WP?
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GWG davidmead: The Bridgy Publish settings page
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GWG Yes
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davidmead OK. Did that, though I had made any changes to the settings
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davidmead JUst went to Brid.gy and ask it to re-poll
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davidmead hadn’t made changes - sorry
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GWG There is a bug with the settings I fixed but haven't deployed yet, just eliminating it
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[miklb] davidmead, it may be similar to the problem you had before, not getting the `u-url` in the post. Same type of post or a different one?
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sknebel tantek: webmention.io #80/#81 as far as I see them only really impact the JF2 version. on the generic "JSON" one everything is there, so you can build stuff on it without waiting for fixes for them
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sknebel hm, in many cases you can't even add a syndicated copy for an RSVP, since most Silos don't have URLs for individual rsvps
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@WendyandCharles ReadersGazette: RT BeemWeeks: Where oh where did Baby Teegarten get off to? Here's a peek! https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/15267877-whatever-happened-to-baby-teegarten #RRBC #ASMSG #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/882843627428433920)
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sknebel Zegnat: better hash for password as well?
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sknebel I just noticed
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Zegnat sknebel I am not even sure we need to hash them at all, which is why changing the code for that is very low on my list.
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Zegnat Though a password_hash to crypt fallback might be a good thing to do instead of what we do now.
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Zegnat Trying to store the password securely besides the signing key feels redundant. Now if the config file leaks the attacker will not have your password but can simply issue tokens that your endpoint is going to accept.
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davidmead GWG: Tried again this morning to click “save settings” on the Brid.gy Publish settings page in WP, but no difference.
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sknebel Zegnat: yeah, true. seeing "md5" just makes the security part of my brain itch, but without pubkey signing it really doesn't make a difference :/
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davidmead [miklb]: Instagram posts still marked up the same way as before. No changes. Brid.gy still saying “no webmention targets” for them too. Never had a ‘u-url’ in the markup that OwnYourGram passes AFAIK.
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Zegnat That is my thinking. Although I might be wrong. I can also see people reusing passwords so it might still need protecting, but I just can’t get my brain to treat it as a big vulnerability currently.
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@mcadonau @rachelandrew Apologies if this has already been asked/answered: Will Webmention be part of @grabaperch? I’d love t… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/882909883800195072 (twitter.com/_/status/882909883800195072)
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jjuran What are you talking about?
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sknebel I'd change it out for crypt sometime (salts automatically etc), but you are right about priority probably
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sknebel selfauth, "our" (I mostly had the initial idea to do it, aven't done much actually on it) self-hosted indieauth endpoint
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sknebel jjuran: ^^^
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Zegnat jjuran: https://github.com/Inklings-io/selfauth
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Loqi [Inklings-io] selfauth: self-hosted auth_endpoint using simple login mechanism
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jjuran thanks
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ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat, if your config file gets leaked, all bets are off really. That's post-intrusion
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme: tantek left you a message 12 hours, 38 minutes ago: with the fixing/implementing for socialstream issues 11 & 12, and webmention.io issues 80 (and preferably 84) I'm pretty sure I'll have what I need create an RSVPs facepile embed very similar to a popular silo's RSVPs facepile. Going to have time to code on this in the next few days.
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ben_thatmustbeme So long as it's quick to reset your password and app key and this kill off all existing keys, that's really the best you can expect
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jjuran Take a look at the first <link> element in https://www.jjuran.org/
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Zegnat What parses that, jjuran?
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jjuran https://www.arcsign.org/
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Zegnat ben_thatmustbeme yeah, and resetting is a matter of rerunning setup.php. Which is why I am not particularly concerned by our password hashing methods
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jjuran Nothing actually parses the Name/Host message body yet. I’m making this up as we speak. :-)
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1500wordmtu.com edited /site-deaths (+47) "Imzy did in fact shut down." (view diff)
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Zegnat Ah, alright!
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jjuran But the public key crypto part exists and works.
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Zegnat I am not sure what the added benefit is of adding the public key within the signature
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Zegnat Could you elaborate?
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jjuran The public key isn’t part of the signed message body, but it’s included in the footer to document which key must be used to verify it.
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Zegnat Yeah, sorry, that is what I meant. I didn’t mean it was included in the signed body, just that it gets passed along together with the signature.
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Zegnat Not sure what the benefit is of including it vs not including it
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jjuran A recipient can compare the received key against a blacklist or whitelist and decline further processing without engaging in cryptographic computation.
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Zegnat Yes, I guess you could spare a few CPU rounds by having an application first check the included public key against a public key it already has on file.
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jjuran Right, until you’ve verified you’re dealing with a trusted party, it’s worth it to try the least expensive means to reach that conclusion.
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jjuran Arcsign is a component of a much larger project — an abuse-resistant communication system: https://www.reticule.org/
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Zegnat I wish there was some accepted way for me to just sign the entire HTML contents of my personal website. Could you work on that for me, jjuran? ;)
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jjuran Store it in Git? What are you trying to do, exactly?
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jjuran So, I’m coming to terms with an inherent contradiction between two goals: (a) use Markdown to generate HTML automatically, and (b) include microformats markup.
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Zegnat I am not sure why that gives you troubles?
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Zegnat jjuran, I don’t know what I am trying to do, to be honest. Mostly it would be cool if people could download the HTML from my website and check it against a signature to see if I actually wrote all of it.
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jjuran Zegnat: Easy enough with a custom user agent, pretty much impossible with a standard Web browser.
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jjuran Markdown knows nothing about microformats. It supports literal HTML markup, but that defeats the purpose of using Markdown.
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Zegnat But how often do you embed microformats within your posts? I think very few people do that. Mostly you are wrapping things around.
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Zegnat And you could do text based things for RSVPs, like how tantek has described. So if your post contains “I am attending {LINK}” add the right microformats either before or after the Markdown processing.
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jjuran This is part of the microformats puzzle I’m still missing — how to use them in practice. If there were an O’Reilly book on the topic, I’d totally buy it.
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jjuran I am already post-processing Markdown’s output to convert “--” into “—”, for example.
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GWG The weekend approaches. More Indieweb time
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tantek \o/
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aaronparecki.com edited /test (+9) (view diff)
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[miklb] GWG no sight seeing in Manila?
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Zegnat ben_thatmustbeme thanks for the code review!
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ben_thatmustbeme no problem
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Zegnat I might go and merge it now so I can rebase current work on it. sknebel is travelling and isn’t be able to review atm
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tantek checks various issues
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ben_thatmustbeme pushed an update to validator.jf2.rocks
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ben_thatmustbeme now additional data with errors
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ben_thatmustbeme expand and collapse with css only
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tantek ooh
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tantek wonders if it checks rsvp values or if that's out of scope
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: any thoughts on socialstream issues #11 or #12? Did they seem easy-ish or harder than they appear?
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ben_thatmustbeme #11 seems to be an issue with the source material
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ben_thatmustbeme as far as i can tell
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aaronpk works through webmention.io tickets instead of fixing mysterious errors with Loqi
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ben_thatmustbeme #12 should be easy
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tantek #11 is just a markup change
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tantek minimally from span to data
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aaronpk wow, there's quite a few architectural decisions in webmention.io that I would do a lot differently now, given a few additional years of experience with microformats2 and using it as a data store
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: you're right that even with #11 fixed, the source material will cause a problem, but at least when that's fixed the data elements will be more usable than the spans
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ben_thatmustbeme true
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tantek aaronpk hope I didn't overwhelm you with too many webmention.io issues - I was trying to break them up into bite-size pieces
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aaronpk no it's great
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aaronpk many small issues > one large rambling thread
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tantek cool
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aaronpk hmm, i think i'm going to make a breaking change to the jf2 format in webmention.io
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aaronpk since i don't actually publicize the jf2 output format anywhere i thiink that's okay
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: check out the examples on that page now
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ben_thatmustbeme haven't committed changes yet, but pushed to live
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aaronpk ooh, i can't... i forgot it uses the jf2 format for the web hook it sends, and it looks like a few peoeple have configured that
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ben_thatmustbeme what would be changing?
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aaronpk the "content" property
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aaronpk right now it's { content-type: "text/html", "value: "" } but it should be the mf2 format instead: { "html": "", "text": "" }
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aaronpk i made this based on a really early first draft of jf2
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tantek checking live
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ben_thatmustbeme you could just put in all 4 for now as a transition period
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ben_thatmustbeme not great, but it shouldn't break anything right away
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tantek +1
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aaronpk oh true!
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aaronpk didn't even notice they won't conflicr
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aaronpk t
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: need to update the /span to /data also :)
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ben_thatmustbeme phht, "Valid" html...
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ben_thatmustbeme picky picky... just pushed that fix to live
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ben_thatmustbeme i'm thinking i may try to figure out some generic style to apply if there is none given
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tantek hey it shows up red when I view source in my browser :)
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ben_thatmustbeme so those that want to can just use the default
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tantek that's really hard
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ben_thatmustbeme i do love that feature
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tantek I'd file that as an issue to collect ideas
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tantek I'll try to see what I can suggest CSS / design wise
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tantek for generic / default - it's seriously very hard
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aaronpk sknebel++ for thorough investigation into webmention.io bugs and providing me line numbers
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Loqi sknebel has 15 karma in this channel (43 overall)
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tantek also we don't want the "bootstrap effect"
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tantek where a default but boring / meh / tired styling gives everything a mediocre look
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: cool the markup improvement for #11 looks good
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tantek with #12 I'll should be able to hide the non-rsvps
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tantek I* should
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aaronpk did the respec syntax highlighter break on this? https://www.w3.org/TR/jf2/#html-content
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aaronpk lol some interesting RSVP values
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aaronpk OwnYourGram << http://help.micro.blog/2017/instagram/
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Loqi ok, I added "http://help.micro.blog/2017/instagram/" to the "See Also" section of /OwnYourGram
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tantek aaronpk: what?
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tantek interesting rsvp values?
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aaronpk some with the name of the event
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aaronpk also "going" and "true"
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aaronpk and "I'm attending"
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tantek heh - I'm just seeing URLs from webmention.io
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tantek per issue #80
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aaronpk not anymore!
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tantek yeah we should probably add an RSVP validator to indiewebify.me's h-entry validator
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: it broke because the js is missing a comma
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ben_thatmustbeme its fixed in the ED
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ben_thatmustbeme wait, or not, hmm
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aaronpk whoops, one is gRegorLove's! https://gregorlove.com/2017/06/im-attending-the-2017-indieweb/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] I’m attending the 2017 IndieWeb Leaders Summit.
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ben_thatmustbeme Now its fixed on the ED
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tantek indiewebify improvement request: https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/issues/67
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Loqi [tantek] #67 h-entry validator should check for valid RSVP values!
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gRegorLove Hah!
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gRegorLove Why did that show up on 2017.indieweb.org?
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gRegorLove Ohh, it's the LS. Nevermind.
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gRegorLove Fixed
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aaronpk gah, i don't like at all what I've done with webmention.io's handling of post types
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tantek aaronpk: welcome to my world of struggling with PTD (not a typo)
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aaronpk i'm trying to add support for https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/83 without adding too many new bad decisions to do so
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Loqi [tantek] #83 Feature request: links.jf2 filter by wm-property
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tantek ah
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tantek I had hoped that would be straightforward since you literally control what shows up in that property today
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tantek (I wasn't asking for a redesign of wm-property - to be clear)
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aaronpk yeah, unfortunately that's not what is stored :)
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aaronpk it's...complicated
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snarfed [davidmead]: re bridgy, do you mean syndication links? https://brid.gy/about#link
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GWG snarfed, it is not finding them, suggesting it might be my problem
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snarfed ok. lots of suggestions in that doc link and below, feel free to reread
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GWG snarfed, if Bridgy didn't find the link, then something is affecting Bridgy the Plugin, which should add it
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[davidmead] snarfed: I’ll look through that again, but 3 days ago Brid.gy just stopped sending.
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snarfed [davidmead]: ok. which silo? got an example post?
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[davidmead] Twitter and Instagram
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[davidmead] I’ll get you a URL
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snarfed and did you change anything anywhere 3d ago? ok if not, just checking
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snarfed i see the missing responses on https://brid.gy/twitter/davidmead and https://brid.gy/instagram/davidjohnmead
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[davidmead] I updated indieweb plugins. changed a WP function to where it adds h-entry (used your doc for reference)
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[davidmead] here’s a post on my site that I know has a reply on Twitter http://davidjohnmead.com/blog/2017/07/03/17240/
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Loqi [davidmead] Posted on 2017-07-032017-07-04 by davidmead Thoroughly enjoyed #BabyDriverMovie. @edgarwright continues to deliver original, cinematic,...
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[davidmead] the reply shows up in Brid.gy, but says “no webmention targets”
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[davidmead] here’s an Instagram post. same thing http://davidjohnmead.com/blog/2017/07/05/17500/
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Loqi [davidmead] Posted on 2017-07-05 by davidmead ‘X’ marks the spot. One of yours @captbliss ? #vscocam #chemtrails #instagram ...
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snarfed mf2 looks ok. https://mf2.kylewm.com/?url=http://davidjohnmead.com/blog/
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[davidmead] snarfed: and the u-syndication links are there, thanks to GWG’s plugin
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[davidmead] now OwnYourSwarm’s webmentions are coming in just fine, but…
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[davidmead] I had to change that to JSON in aaronpk’s site as the “simple” version didn’t pull through properly with the webmention plugin update (we think)
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snarfed right
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[davidmead] could that be the same thing here? is it worth my logging in to Brid.gy and changing it to JSON?
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snarfed no, that's unrelated. simple vs JSON is a micropub thing; bridgy uses webmentions
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[davidmead] ah. ok
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snarfed not sure what's up yet. i'll file an issue
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[davidmead] thanks ?
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snarfed sorry for the trouble, and thanks for letting us know!
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[davidmead] no trouble. let me know if I have to change anything my end ?
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gRegorLove [davidmead], snarfed: Noticed the original post for that tweet doesn't appear on http://davidjohnmead.com/blog/, so logs look like it couldn't find the original
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gRegorLove It's on page 3 currently
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snarfed gRegorLove: but bridgy re crawls web sites as frequently as every 6h, so it would have seen it earlier
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gRegorLove Ah, yeah I see "last-refetch 2017-07-04 18:17:01.952230"
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[miklb] is it in the feed? I know I had to set up a /firehose at one point
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[miklb] oh, nvm
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[davidmead] gRegorLove: I did have to delete and repost that one, but I made sure to add the syndication link in so Brid.gy could find it later
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snarfed filed https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/758
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Loqi [snarfed] #758 not finding syndication links on davidjohnmead.com
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snarfed ooh https://letsencrypt.org//2017/07/06/wildcard-certificates-coming-jan-2018.html
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aaronpk ?
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tantek what is IndieWeb Taxonomy Plugin
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "IndieWeb Taxonomy Plugin" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek what is reply-threading
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "reply-threading" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek what is POSSE reply?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "POSSE reply" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove what is reply thread
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Loqi A reply chain (AKA reply thread) is a list of replies, and replies to those replies, displayed under the original post https://indieweb.org/reply-thread
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tantek looks like nearly all the "smarts" about POSSEing, I've documented in /Twitter#POSSE
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aaronpk is churning through webmention.io issues
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tantek POSSE reply is a reply post POSSEd to a silo such that the POSSE copy is threaded properly with the silo post it is in reply to, or the POSSE copy on that silo that the reply is in reply to.
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loqi.me created /POSSE_reply (+217) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek POSSE reply << [[Twitter#POSSE_Replies_to_Tweets]]
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loqi.me edited /POSSE_reply (+55) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Twitter#POSSE_Replies_to_Tweets]]" to the "See Also" section of /POSSE_reply
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tantek POSSE reply << [[Twitter#POSSE_Replies_to_Twitter]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Twitter#POSSE_Replies_to_Twitter]]" to the "See Also" section of /POSSE_reply
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loqi.me edited /POSSE_reply (+39) "tantek added "[[Twitter#POSSE_Replies_to_Twitter]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek POSSE reply << POSSE
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loqi.me edited /POSSE_reply (+12) "tantek added "[[POSSE]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[POSSE]]" to the "See Also" section of /POSSE_reply
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tantek POSSE reply << reply
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loqi.me edited /POSSE_reply (+12) "tantek added "[[reply]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[reply]]" to the "See Also" section of /POSSE_reply
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tantek POSSE << [[POSSE reply]]
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loqi.me edited /POSSE (+18) "tantek added "[[POSSE reply]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[POSSE reply]]" to the "See Also" section of /POSSE
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tantek.com edited /SNAP (+42) "fix dfn a bit, explicitly link POSSE reply functionality to a more general description" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /POSSE_reply (+15) "dfn grammar, ws" (view diff)
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aaronpk the more i look at this the more i want to trash everything and start over ?
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snarfed that way lie dragons
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aaronpk GAHHHH
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petermolnar aaronpk when I get this feeling - thrash and start over - I get some sleep, some more sleep, revisit it and see if I still feel like rewriting
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aaronpk that's kind of what i did with this, except over a period of several months lol
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aaronpk i've been putting off doing any updates to webmention.io because this is how i felt last time i tried :P
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tantek sorry to be part of the impetus aaronpk
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aaronpk it was bound to happen eventually
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tantek I was trying to get showing RSVPs working to use it for my indie event post for the /next-hwc
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tantek and I was trying to see how much I could do by putting existing pieces together instead of trying to write a whole bunch of new code
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aaronpk i'm almost done with all your tickets!
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tantek whoa what
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tantek let me guess, all coming in one deploy?
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk aaand done
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aaronpk and deployed
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aaronpk https://webmention.io/api/count?target=http://tantek.com/2017/183/e1/sunday-yoga-presidio
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tantek whoa
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aaronpk and https://webmention.io/api/mentions.jf2?target=http://tantek.com/2017/183/e1/sunday-yoga-presidio&wm-property=rsvp&sort-by=rsvp
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tantek ok that I'm switching to right now
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tantek better to clean the data earlier rather than later with display:none
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tantek let's see what socialstream does with that
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tantek so far so good
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tantek ok now for some badges
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KartikPrabhu !tell j12t what's a good way to send the logo fix to indietech?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek so close
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tantek good enough to iframe it and tweak
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tantek ok I have it working as a hardcoded iframe
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KartikPrabhu !tell j12t made a branch and sent PR
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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ben_thatmustbeme cool, tantek, can i see what you ended up with?
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tantek working on it! :)
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tantek and now I have it working as a code generated iframe
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tantek and testing on a second event
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tantek hmm - ben_thatmustbeme do you have a limitation on the length of the style attribute
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ben_thatmustbeme i didn't set any, but i coudl see you hitting practical limits in terms of URL length
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ben_thatmustbeme i would recommend writing it to a file someone and just using the URL
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tantek yeah I'm getting an XSS warning from Noscript if it's bigger than a certain length
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tantek which I suppose people could be running with besides me!
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ben_thatmustbeme socialstream is just php, you could also run your own copy
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gRegorLove what is socialstream?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "socialstream" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek aaronpk found a wm-property filter bug
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tantek in the second event I tried!
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aaronpk nooo
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tantek check this out: https://webmention.io/api/mentions.jf2?target=http://tantek.com/2017/179/e1/homebrew-website-club&wm-property=rsvp&sort-by=rsvp
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tantek only has two indie events posted so far ?
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aaronpk well that's strange
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tantek yeah!
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tantek breaking things with each inadvertan test case
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aaronpk oh this is the case sensitive thing
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aaronpk i didnt' write a script to migrate all the old data
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aaronpk should be quick
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aaronpk done
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tantek wow I think I'm ready to deploy
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tantek checks how many files he has two update
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gRegorLove I think my earlier RSVP to tantek's first event post ran into the http-301 thing on webmention.io. Just re-sent and it worked.
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gRegorLove So I think my webmention endpoint discovery needs to be updated -- should check for 30x redirects before sending.
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aaronpk we didn't have any guidance about what senders should do if they hit a 3xx code
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tantek counts two
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aaronpk gRegorLove: would appreciate if you chimed in here based on your experience https://github.com/w3c/webmention/issues/89
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Loqi [aaronpk] #89 what should senders do when they receive a 3xx response from the webmention endpoint?
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tantek gRegorLove: confirmed! I see your RSVP no!
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tantek one style sheet and one PHP file
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gRegorLove Hmm, not sure I understand what Sandro's saying there.
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tantek gRegorLove: see for yourself: http://tantek.com/2017/179/e1/homebrew-website-club
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club SF
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gRegorLove My initial thought is: redirected endpoints should return 301/302 for GET requests, 307/308 for POST requests
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tantek and ben_thatmustbeme see what I ended up with: http://tantek.com/2017/183/e1/sunday-yoga-presidio
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Loqi Sunday Vinyasa yoga at Presidio Picnic
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tantek shamelessly stealing RSVP facepile design from FB with some tweaks :)
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aaronpk whoaaaa
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tantek :D :D :D
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gRegorLove ... then senders should check for 301/302 during discovery and follow redirect, sending to the final endpoint
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gRegorLove tantek++ looks great!
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tantek The *only* thing left I'd lke to fix is to somehow link to indie rsvps to their indie rsvp posts instead of their profiles but that can come later
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tantek also I left interested and maybe looking the same
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tantek since FB does
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tantek hey snarfed - check out how these Bridgy RSVPs are being rendered: http://tantek.com/2017/183/e1/sunday-yoga-presidio
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Loqi Sunday Vinyasa yoga at Presidio Picnic
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tantek ok 5% battery on laptop, time to let it recharge and go get a coffee
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tantek :successkid:
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tantek aaronpk++ for webmention.io
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme++ for socialstream
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tantek snarfed++ for Bridgy RSVP backfeed
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tantek I'll leave the disassembly of my inline style sheet used to get that presentation as an exercise for the view sourcerer
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tantek note: I creatd zero images in the process
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tantek *created
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snarfed tantek++ omg wm response rendering on tantek.com! long time coming. congrats!
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gRegorLove The "X" on the RSVP isn't showing up for, white-on-white. Maybe a color needed in `.p-rsvp[value=no]:before`
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tantek snarfed, using an iframe, so sorta cheating, but still, it looks good
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tantek gRegorLove: that's an emoji, odd - what browser / OS?
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gRegorLove Firefox and Chrome on Win 8.1. It appears when I set color: red in that CSS
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aaronpk might need to give the emoji one of those style variant codes
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gRegorLove Both up to date (not nightly, though)
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aaronpk sounds like it's rendering it as the image-less unicode version
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tantek reload
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tantek gRegorLove++ for Windows testing!
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gRegorLove There they are. Looks good.
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tantek 2% - bbiah or so :)
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gRegorLove Does anyone have an http webmention endpoint that redirects to https? I know webmention.io does but it's oft temporarily.
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gRegorLove Oh wait, mine should. Duh
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KartikPrabhu who is j12t
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Upon2020.com
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gRegorLove What is microformats.io?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "microformats.io" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove microformats.io is a site that serves as an introduction to microformats and has production-ready microformats parsers developers can use for testing https://github.com/veganstraightedge/microformats.io
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Loqi ok
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Loqi [veganstraightedge] microformats.io: Simple explainer site about Microformats.
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gRegorLove what is microformats.io
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Loqi microformats.io is a site that serves as an introduction to microformats and has production-ready microformats parsers that developers can use for testing https://indieweb.org/microformats.io
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tantek now I'm itching to implement the "7 Went, 1 Interested" summary
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tantek also I found one bug/limitation so far that I'm trying to track down - the people icons/avatars for RSVPs are not showing up on iOS - not sure why. I'm not logged in to FB on my iPod
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tantek however those icons *do* show up in desktop Safari in a Private Browsing window, so not being logged in / cookied is not it
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tantek if someone could take a look at http://tantek.com/2017/183/e1/sunday-yoga-presidio in their mobile browser (any) and let me know what you see (and whether your browser is signed into FB) I would appreciate it!
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Loqi Sunday Vinyasa yoga at Presidio Picnic
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gRegorLove I see an asterisk overlay icon, blue background, for the rightmost RSVP. Android Chrome, not logged in to FB.
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gRegorLove No other overlay icons
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gRegorLove iOS Safair I see that, but also green checkmarks for the rest.
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gRegorLove Not logged in to FB
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tantek no I mean the pictures of people
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tantek the overlays I'm calling "badges" because that's what iOS calls them AKA the "red numbers" that show up on apps
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tantek do you see people's avatars?
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gRegorLove I see 7 avatars on both platforms
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tantek without being logged in? nice
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tantek I wonder why my iPod6/iOS10 is not showing people's avatars
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tantek ok weird I reloaded and they are showing up now
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tantek ok perhaps transient failure from FB servers
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gRegorLove Oh, and I was wrong about the checkmark badges on Android. They're there but don't stick out below the avatar and they're light blue outline checkmarks, so had to zoom in a lot to see them.
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tantek ok I'll try to find someone with an android and debug in person
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tantek thanks for checking gRegorLove
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gRegorLove On desktop I notice 3 console warnings about refusing to load a data:image, 'because it violates the following Content Security Policy directive: "img-src *"'
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gRegorLove That may be my disconnect.me plugin
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gRegorLove Yeah, I don't get it in an icognito tab; disregard
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gRegorLove yw tantek
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tantek aaronpk, I'm brainstorming about what would be a good way to ask for this: https://webmention.io/api/count?target=http://tantek.com/2017/183/e1/sunday-yoga-presidio but as simple mf2 that can be styled to present as something like "6 Went • 1 Interested". Pretty sure all I need is a one object for all those properties in spans
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tantek I'll think about it some more and come back