#dev 2017-07-08

2017-07-08 UTC
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[kevinmarks] don't you choose a city now??
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aaronpk looks like in the app you can choose venues or neighborhoods or cities
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aaronpk the coordinates all show up as just a "bounding box" for the place, tho sometimes the bounding box is tiny
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[miklb] that was a lot less painless than I thought it was.
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@taravancil I'm learning about IndieAuth, an effort to consolidate Web identities. The idea is that you log in websites with your personal domain (twitter.com/_/status/883503265043947521)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /SNAP (+3466) "POSSE targets; backfeed sources" (view diff)
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@taravancil Does anyone know what happened to IndieAuth? It doesn't appear the project is active. I'd like to hear more about the project's history (twitter.com/_/status/883509203570176001)
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@aaronpk @taravancil Was it that https://indieauth.com is made with like bootstrap 1? I'd love to know what I could do to make it look more active! (twitter.com/_/status/883517315622477825)
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@taravancil @aaronpk It wasn't the design, but the history page stops at 2012 so I think I assumed that was the end of the IndieAuth story (twitter.com/_/status/883517777834856449)
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@taravancil @ejcx_ And this is their setup guide https://indieauth.com/setup There's a bunch of other info scattered on https://indieauth.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/883528269483704320)
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Zegnat [miklb], I should probably have defined “fiddly parts” as public-facing parts. I have no issue installing a database or whatever on a box and have it open to socket connections. I trust my self with that. It is public-facing stuff I don’t feel comfortable about doing.
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jonnybarnes.uk edited /HTTPS (+24) "/* Why */ marked a link as being offline" (view diff)
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petermolnar ^^^ this causes weird feelings in me
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petermolnar offline urls in why section
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petermolnar I'm guessing it's inevitable, though; I can't remember if indieweb has already encountered the question of what happens with the data of the deceased, that one that caused FB trouble as well
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petermolnar in my case both my server and my domain would expire when my prepaid credit card runs out of funds
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petermolnar permashortlink << https://www.hanselman.com/blog/URLsAreUI.aspx
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.hanselman.com/blog/URLsAreUI.aspx" to the "See Also" section of /permashortlink
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loqi.me edited /permashortlink (+48) "petermolnar added "https://www.hanselman.com/blog/URLsAreUI.aspx" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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sebsel petermolnar I found this: https://indieweb.org/longevity#Dead_Man.27s_Switch
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petermolnar sebsel that conversation happened when I was on holiday, probably that's why I skipped it, thanks for findig it
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petermolnar finding
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petermolnar I'm guessing static website come handy for a dead man's switch
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jjuran Welcome to the brittle Web
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sebsel hm, and there is https://indieweb.org/legacy_contact
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sebsel We don't really have a page on this specific topic, but since I don't know how to call it, it might exist under that name
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petermolnar the most problematic part of indieweb for longetivity is who's going to pay for your domain if you're not?
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Zegnat That is where I have a semi-out. Several family members use the domain as it is our family name. If anyone is still using it for their email after I die, chances are they will take over the domain payments.
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cweiske you specify in your testament that the heirs have to continue running the server + domain :)
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petermolnar does any of the providers let you pre-pay a domain for 50 or more years?
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sebsel cweiske is right, if you want to be buried you will have to get a similar arrangement.
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petermolnar suddenly envisioned smart tombstones
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petermolnar oh dear what have I done
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cweiske petermolnar, I don't know any providers
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cweiske they probably won't do that because of possible NIC price rises
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petermolnar "get your smart tombstone pre-ordered today!" build in solar powered raspberry pi that keeps serving your static site by serving a wifi with a built-in dns so whoever connects can indefinitely browser your website and it won't cost any money
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sebsel petermolnar take a look at Wubbo Ockels' (Dutch astronaut) tombstone http://www.twinsholland.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Zorgvlied-1-1024x620.jpg
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sebsel but that's getting offtopic :)
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cweiske .. as long as wifi devices are around
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petermolnar sebsel off, but not that off, I'm starting to think that this is indeed a viable option to keep serving content without the need of any provider, although it'd be location/memorial restricted
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petermolnar cweiske that is true
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Zegnat I am not sure every country will allow you to require your heirs to do something in your name. You are better off setting up a trust to do that, who are legally bound by the rules of the trust. A single IndieWeb trust might even work: leave them money and transfer your hosting/domain to the IndieWeb Trust and they keep paying the bills.
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cweiske Zegnat++ good idea. indieweb trust
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Loqi zegnat has 20 karma in this channel (108 overall)
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petermolnar not certain if it's a doable option
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petermolnar certainly sounds interesting
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sebsel related / also bit off: Ockels' Twitter account is still online and stopped tweeting in 2014, without any indication of his death. https://twitter.com/Ockels
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petermolnar :(
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cweiske deadman's notice feature in the indieweb trust
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cweiske you only have to grant oauth access
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seblog.nl edited /longevity (+615) "/* Brainstorming */ added IndieWeb Trust" (view diff)
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sebsel Just linking back to the logs :)
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martymcgui.re edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+123) "/* Baltimore */ venue" (view diff)
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[miklb] Zegnat what do you mean by “public facing”?
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[miklb] also, good morning all
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Zegnat Accessible by outside parties. E.g. apache through port 80
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sknebel aaronpk: were the Loqi-issues in the library under TikTokBot, or some other part? (do I have to worry about it happening when I use TTB?)
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aaronpk yeah it was in the cinch.rb IRC client
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aaronpk i updated cinch and am running it in the latest ruby and it's working again
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sknebel ah, I see new commits. k, will upgrade Kaja as well
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sknebel cc sebsel, relevant for you as well
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sebsel oh, sknebel thanks, but my webhost blocked my home-IP pings, so no webmention-to-IRC for me atm :)
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sknebel .oO
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sknebel I thought on other ports it worked?
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sknebel or did they block you afterwards?
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sebsel It did but stopped working. I want to get back to my earlier idea about a notification centre in Seblog
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sebsel I block most notifications on my phone anyway, so I should not try and re-create that. But I like a place to see them all, like Facebook's world-icon or GitHub nice way of showing them per repo.
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sebsel Ah, I see we documented that already under https://indieweb.org/notification#GitHub etc :)
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sknebel yeah, I have them in IRC only in a way where they don't create a notification or so, I just see when I come back to Quassel that the channel changed color
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sebsel yeah, I like it that way, I had that too for two days ;)
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sebsel Still want to try to go the non-dev way, crafting by own UI :)
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@WendyandCharles ReadersGazette: BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.thejugglingauthor.com/indieauth/ Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 48 (twitter.com/_/status/883806259199303680)
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