#dev 2017-08-30

2017-08-30 UTC
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tantek.com edited /own_your_data (+345) "/* Tantek */ owned events since IWS2017, public RSVPs since 2017-01-01" (view diff)
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aaronpk I love how all the demos at this conference end with "and I'm logged in!"
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[miklb] aaronpk, is that a POSSE to IRC?
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aaronpk haha
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Loqi nice
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aaronpk i said that in irc then realized I should post it to my website
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[miklb] knows that feeling
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aaronpk I did have IRC as a syndication button for a while tho
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[miklb] I thought you had mentioned working on it, thus why I thought it could have been
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aaronpk I changed how my irc client setup works tho so it's not up anymore
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@Konzertheld @miklb @voxpelli I just added my blog and Twitter to bridgy and the webmention Heroku service.. Not of much use for… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/902716867923587075 (twitter.com/_/status/902716867923587075)
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@voxpelli @Konzertheld @miklb Feel free to open an issue here: https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-webmentions/issues Then we can track any similar cases and progress there (twitter.com/_/status/902782803485577216)
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petermolnar cweiske I'm running as much as possible with separate users
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cweiske me too
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cweiske but having a server on the public internet is mentally different for me
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petermolnar I used to think that as well, but then how is any cloud sync service different?
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cweiske I don't use cloud sync services :)
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petermolnar right, that makes sense
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petermolnar :)
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cweiske except my own one
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cweiske I actually have 2 cloud sync services:
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cweiske one at home that syncs between desktop and laptop machines
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cweiske and one on my public server that is used to share selected images to other people
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cweiske access-restricted
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petermolnar that's the thing: when I started running syncthing between my hosts, I realised I'm already exposing "sensitive" data that way
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cweiske so sensitive data never leave my home network
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petermolnar mine does
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cweiske only those data that I share with others, privately
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petermolnar encrypted and everything
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petermolnar but I gave up a while ago
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cweiske no encryption ehre
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petermolnar that's a difference then, I tend to run everything TLS/SSL only what's public facing
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petermolnar the only exceptions at the moment is my mqtt server
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cweiske I mean no data encryption
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cweiske transport encryption, yes
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petermolnar ah, right
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petermolnar I have that on my home server, partially (2 zfs pools, one encrypted, the other isn't, otherwise it's really hard to turn it back on remotely, should that ever be needed)
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petermolnar the main server isn't data encrypted
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petermolnar because debian on encrypted zfs root is ridiculously hard
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petermolnar gave up after spending 3-4 weekends on it
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cweiske the threat model for hdd encryption is stealing of the hardware, which I'm not that concerned at home
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cweiske so I don't use it
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petermolnar I have been burglared once but my home server survived: it was locked together with the docking station AND it's an ancient looking thinkpad :D
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petermolnar (with a dead screen)
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petermolnar but yes, somewhere, deep inside, I'm not completely happy with the setup
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petermolnar I'm yet to find a solution to have rsync or zfs send to a place I trust and I can afford
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petermolnar rsync.net would be nice, but that's out of budget
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cweiske I should blog about my backup setup
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Loqi I agree
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cweiske I have a NAS at home with mirrored disks
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cweiske desktop and laptop backup their data to the home server, which mounts the NAS
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cweiske so data are secure from HDD failure
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petermolnar so far, mine is similar, except it's an old laptop, and I sync with ssh+rsync
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cweiske backups are weekly/monthly/yearly with hardlinks, so data are secure from accidential deletion
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petermolnar daily/weekly zfs snapshots here
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cweiske and yearly, I manually transfer the backup data onto a two HDDs. one is locked in a safe at home, one is locked in a safe at my father's house
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petermolnar I only write photos out to bluray
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petermolnar no safe though
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cweiske so data are safe house burning
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cweiske *from
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petermolnar I more or less mirror my home server and my remote one
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petermolnar so I can relatively fast spin up my home server in case I lose my main one
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petermolnar security implications apart losing my mailing is certainly a problem for me, hence the mirror to the local server
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petermolnar and yes, I don't really like the fact that I have an internet facing server with wordpress & such which also has my backups, even if they are well separated
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petermolnar trouble is, that server costs me ~30€/month
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petermolnar and I'm yet to find anything to hold ~3TB of stuff for the same prices which I'd trust well enough
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cweiske I split with 2 friends, so we pay 10€ each
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petermolnar 30€ id ok
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petermolnar is
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petermolnar there is this thing which I'd though of: https://www.hetzner.com/storage-box
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petermolnar but they have FTP
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petermolnar which I really don't want
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[kevinmarks] If you put cloud flare in front of your home server does that work
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cweiske cloudflare is no silver bullet.
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cweiske and it's external service that you'd have to trust
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cweiske and it csots
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cweiske costs
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[kevinmarks] I was thinking as a cache against you rebooting every so often
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tantek cweiske++ that's an impressive security + backup setup
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Loqi cweiske has 17 karma in this channel (113 overall)
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tantek what is privacy
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Loqi Privacy is “the ability of an individual or group to seclude themselves or information about themselves and thereby express themselves selectively” https://indieweb.org/privacy
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tantek hmm - that dfn should be improved to not require such a giant quote (which sounds too abstract)
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tantek what is backup
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Loqi A backup of an indieweb site should have everything necessary to redeploy it on a new webhost https://indieweb.org/backup
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Planning (+253) "/* Los Angeles */ 2018 date possibilities; Yahoo! will likely host; removed some unlikely October dates" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+151) "First BarCamp as part of the influencing of IndieWebCamp timeline" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+582) "/* Los Angeles */ add a bunch of +/- 1 for new dates, link a few nearby events" (view diff)
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[keithjgrant] http://keithjgrant.com/notes/2017/08/68549/
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Loqi [Keith J. Grant] Test post from Omnibear in Firefox!
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tantek neat!
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tantek [keithjgrant]: do you have more details (datetime, venue) on your talk on the IndieWeb next month at @connect_js?
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tantek you should add it to /events !
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Loqi it is probable
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[cleverdevil] Cool, keithjgrant
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[cleverdevil] requests Safari support ?
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[keithjgrant] cleverdevil I knew you'd say that. ;). They need to support WebExtensions
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[keithjgrant] tantek good idea!
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tantek what is a fundraiser
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "fundraiser" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek fundraiser is a type of post similar to an [[event]] that encourages readers to donate in response to it, supported by at least [[Facebook]].
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /fundraiser (+168) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /fundraiser (+890) "expand with IW examples, silo examples, FB, notification screenshot, see also" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /fundraiser (+162) "main Facebook Fundraisers, link to IRC text description" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Facebook_Fundraisers (+99) "link dfn, see also fundraiser" (view diff)
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sebsel what is Omnibear?
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Loqi Omnibear is a Chrome extension for posting text notes, replies, and likes to your website using Micropub https://indieweb.org/Omnibear
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:twitter-dm-requests.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:twitter-dm-requests.jpg"
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