GWGRuxton: I'm not saying they should be in the blogstream. You are thinking of the WordPress specific implementation. I brought this into the dev room because I want to think bigger
ludovicchabantgood evening indieweb devs! is there anything out there that can monitor a feed, and send webmentions for any new articles it finds there?
tantek!tell gRegorLove perhaps instead of the nxn See Also links from every payment vendor (e.g. Apple Pay, Venmo , Google Wallet) to every other, just have them all See Also to /payment and have that link out to them all?
LoqiA review is an evaluation of a product or service, usually involving a written description, but can also be limited to a numerical scale https://indieweb.org/review
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[eddie]!tell aaronpk: I installed Watchtower on my server. Imported the schema.sql (which looks like it already incorporates both 0001 and 0002 sql changes. When I load the watchtower url I get a page that says Watchtower.
[eddie]So I think it’s all working correctly. Users table is blank, so I’m not sure how I add anything to that. Is there a script to add it in? Or do I just manually add my user entry? If it’s manual, are there any requirements for the token key?
Loqiaaronpk: [eddie] left you a message 1 minute ago: I installed Watchtower on my server. Imported the schema.sql (which looks like it already incorporates both 0001 and 0002 sql changes. When I load the watchtower url I get a page that says Watchtower.
dansupaaronpk: monocle looks interesting! I was working on a gnu/social clone using laravel and bulma before, haven't worked on it in about a year though.
[eddie]That’s good to know it would be helpful to more than just me. I’ll definitely have to look into it when I get the chance. It would help to replace my use of Instapaper. Right now one of the ways I use Instapaper is by adding things to my queue, and getting a list of the 10 most recent articles to my kindle every morning. So step one is making sure my microsub gets stable, then figuring out a method to add an article to it.
[eddie]Then it should be pretty easy because it should just be building the microsub reader that allows you to select each channel, set if you want it to send to Kindle, enter how many articles to send and the email it needs to get delivered to. (Of course, then there is fooling around with the kindle format. lol. might be more work then I realize 😆 )
aaronpkit should be possible to build a standalone app to do the microsub->kindle service so that the app can fetch it like any other frontend interface and convert stuff to html
[eddie]I would probably just want a single channel most the time like my “read it later” channel, but I figure allow the person to select whatever channels they want, because who knows how people might want to end up using it
[eddie]lol well you did build it all in like a week or something crazy like that, so you can’t build stuff AND document it at a crazy pace. I’m been jotting some notes in a github issue under watchtower just to have some type of reminder for later documentation.
snarfed[eddie] aaronpk: just fyi, the send-to-kindle service + bookmarklet i use: http://fivefilters.org/kindle-it/ . also has an android app with a share target, which is awesome.
snarfeddamn. i'd been hoping the new webhook API would let me stop polling twitter in bridgy...but looks like it has a 35 user cap, above which you need an enterprise plan, which i'm guessing comes with enterprise sized pricing :/
[eddie]aaronpk: two quick questions When using an API key to POST data into monocle, is it just an array of jf2 objects? To create an api key for the notifications channel, do I need to create that channel in monocle? (I think microsub says it always exists in a microsub server)
[eddie]Okay, yeah I see the notifications channel in together, but notifications doesn’t show up in the UI of monocle. Obviously not urgent, but I’m wondering if you’ll want to add notifications to the monocle UI so an API/access token could be created
[eddie]Last question for the evening 😉 Where are the storage files located for monocle? I looked in storage/app/public but it’s empty? Wondering if that should be concerning.
tantekaccording to that chart, if I shave off 1 min, I can spend at most *one day* building support for a posting UI. if I save 5 minutes then 6 days (not sure how that math works but ok).
tantekI think a big part of what would motivate me to build/iterate a working UI is getting the do/undo flow that I want (that pretty much nothing has except the Gmail "undo send" feature)
tantekbecause that would be ground-breaking in terms of blog/CMS posting UIs, and thus has the additional value of providing an indieweb example of something that is noticeably a better experience than any silo
gRegorLove Venmo << Google Wallet
Loqi ok, I added "[[Google Wallet]]" to the "See Also" section of /Venmo
ludovicchabant good evening indieweb devs! is there anything out there that can monitor a feed, and send webmentions for any new articles it finds there?
loqi.me created /Secure_Scuttlebutt (+206) "prompted by sknebel and dfn added by sknebel" (view diff)
petermolnar Zegnat wasn't that the default macos root password as well? (sorry)
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@mattdiamond Just learned about WebMentions and brid.gy… would be great if this tech could get mainstream adoption and connect discourse across the web (twitter.com/_/status/943209874707632134)
aaronpk this is my /etc/init/watchtower.conf for ubuntu https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/69681d851b616a3b87b0dd0d0bcf4801
@HongPong @Dries @davewiner everyone plz note there is now ActivityPub spec which creates more complex social media-ish feeds https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ [ #mastodon + #GNUsocial ] & we have a basic #Webmention & pingback module here > https://drupal.org/project/linkback < #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/943223452357550080)
tantek hey snarfed this one is for you :) https://xkcd.com/1319/
KartikPrabhu tantek: comparing to Gmail, then you'd like to "post" something but have it on a timer so that you can "unpost" it?