KartikPrabhuremoving mf2 class dependent styles from CSS is a good idea. But removing mf2 from the themes isn't a solution to that. you can attach styles to any arbitrary attribute or tag in CSS
KartikPrabhuit might alos be good that a "starter" theme should not have any microformats. But theme authors can add those in in "derivative" themes no?
LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "best way of telling wordpress that they are massively misguided here" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "best way of telling wordpress that they are massively misguided here is ____", a sentence describing the term)
GWG[kevinmarks]: The focus of the community seems to have turned to the business side of things, instead of a more personal platform, which is a shame.
theReal33mhzI've read through https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/736 and related documentation for better pnut.io support. Quite a lot of pieces to pick up; I'll want to familiarize myself w/known and bridgy, get both running and see where I can help. I haven't read through all of micropub, either, which would be good to cover as well.
theReal33mhzkartikprabhu I believe it. I'll start from scratch so that these tools work sensibly with pnut.io -- to the extent that I can... No better way to understand than to do.
schmartyi'm trying to set it up for a personal site and i am running into something that may not be part of its core feature set, but *seems* like it should be
schmartyhowever, lasso also has a feature flag for "allowAllUsers" which, if true, will "identify users rather than determine whether they are authorized"
schmartyi would actually like lasso to check whether a user is authorized, but i don't grok how it allows you to specify authorization. there's something about encoding "grants" into the JWT it uses for the identifying cookie, but i am a little lost.
schmartya-ha! figured it out. the issue was coming from the way my protected site was proxying requests to lasso. since i was using proxy_pass directly to the server on localhost, i needed to proxy_set_header Host to the actual host domain.
[eddie]snarfed: I must be doing something wrong in granary with Facebook. I’m trying to get a stream of posts by just one friend so I can add that friend’s posts into microsub. I composed the URL like this: https://granary.io/facebook/1286685110/@self/@app/?format=mf2-json the userid right after facebook I was able to verify is the right friend’s API id both from looking at a link in the DOM of my newsfeed and using one of those “Get user id fr
Loqi[[eddie]] snarfed: I must be doing something wrong in granary with Facebook. I’m trying to get a stream of posts by just one friend so I can add that friend’s posts into microsub. I composed the URL like this: https://granary.io/facebook/1286685110/@self/@...
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LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "Google Account" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Google Account is ____", a sentence describing the term)
ZegnatNot sure that is worth defining tantek. That’s like asking “What is a Facebook Account?” or “What is a Twitter Account?”. Redirect to definition of the service providers themselves.
LoqiiCloud is what Apple summarily calls all of its various online services such as iCloud identifiers, online storage, syncing, etc https://indieweb.org/iCloud
LoqiApple ID is a universal identity system from Apple that they use on iOS and macOS systems as well as their iCloud service https://indieweb.org/Apple_ID
ZegnatOoh, interesting, even though the form says “Email or Phone”, it will also accept the thing you have set as “username”. Which they only advertise as your profile shortlink
snarfedyou don't have to use that gmail address to log in, or as your primary email where google will mail you, but i believe it still exists and is attached to the account
snarfedso to rephrase, afaik all google accounts have a unique email address at a google apps managed domain. that address and domain can change over time, but still. i don't know that you can create a google account without *any* address at a google-managed domain, even if you don't see or use it much (or at all)
ZegnatI’ll have to check, I am pretty sure my brother’s Hotmail account is a Google Account that he uses for his YouTube and Android stuff. Though obviously that domain isn’t Google-managed, it also does not include email
snarfedsure! as i mentioned earlier, you can have a non-google-managed address as the primary on an account, you can log in with it, etc. i believe there will just *also* always be a google-managed address, either gmail or google apps, even if you don't use it much or at all, maybe even only thought about it once when you signed up.
Zegnathttps://i.imgur.com/dT3LbEW.png - Google sign-up, click “I prefer to use my current email address”, then the “Choose your username” changes to “Your email address”.
[eddie]!tell aaronpk: Looking through your PHP IndieWeb libraries I don’t think I see a library that contains logic for micropub queries and media endpoint stuff. I’m assuming the proper library to add that stuff into would be your new p3k/Micropub?
LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "Google Account" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Google Account is ____", a sentence describing the term)
LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "Google Account" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Google Account is ____", a sentence describing the term)
tantekbut with Bridgy backfeed for GitHub, I believe you get backfeed for all comments that come after your comment, whether they linked to your comment or not
tantekor even on twitter. right now you only get backfed @-replies that reply to your @-reply. what if you got all subsequent @-replies to the root of the thread?
tantekthen if we also consider broadening reply-context similarly to all responses transitive that were made to the root of the discussion before your response
tantekby capturing both of those (broad reply-context before your post, broad backfeed after your post), you can replicate the entire context around what your responding to, and thus not need to actually visit the silo for *any* context around your responses
snarfedie, how would the full indie case work? eg you comment on a post, and then someone else also comments on it. how would your site get that comment? an extension of salmention?
tantekas in I believe his own reply posts receive salmentions and then display any new comments found at the original as subsequent comments on his reply post
[kevinmarks]When you use a non-google email for some services, it will get you to pick a name from the common namespace with Gmail. Plus does that, some others do too.
[kevinmarks]Also, there is a really nasty edge case, where you sign up with a non Google email account, and later that domain switches to Gmail, and you can have 2 different Google accounts with the same email.
snarfedtantek: sure. i get that it's technically legal. we've just never thought through the details of extracting, ingesting and displaying indirect context like this, as opposed to direct replies etc.
tanteksnarfed, point being, spec is pretty clear about "any new links that appear at the URL" - that would include links back to peer-to-peer comment permalinks as they're displayed under a post
tantekin addition, non peer-to-peer comments (AKA "local comments") are covered by this sentence: "If a response to the source URL is shown on the source URL page (e.g. as a comment), then sender SHOULD treat that as an update of the source URL and re-send any previously sent Webmentions."
tantekand link to /Salmention for more details of how to do so, so we have some wiggle room for adapting / specifying according to actual implementations
LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "Share-Backported" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Share-Backported is ____", a sentence describing the term)
LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "Share Backported" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Share Backported is ____", a sentence describing the term)