#dev 2019-01-27
2019-01-27 UTC
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aaronpk that's why the parser returns the URL for the "value" here: https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2019-01-26-19-24-01-Od9QBFNhsO.jpg
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tw2113 dunno who is in control of the IndieWeb GitHub repos, but this is me https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb/issues/130
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@iChris ↩️ I’m intrigued by webmentions and while I’m sure WordPress can do them, it’s somehow more fun if I set it up in such a way that I have no idea how to fix it if it breaks. https://mxb.at/blog/using-webmentions-on-static-sites/ (twitter.com/_/status/1089373282305015808)
# @iChris ↩️ …or maybe I could just install a plugin and have it working right away? https://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/ (twitter.com/_/status/1089375875710308358)
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# [jdpinto1] Is there a way to have an h-feed on a site that uses pagination? My microblog spans multiple pages, and I’ve tried using `rel="feed"` on each page’s link to older posts, but it doesn’t seem to be doing the trick.
# [jdpinto1] Or maybe it does work the way I have things set up at https://juanpinto.me/microblog, but it’s just that brid.gy can only parse the first 10 h-entries. Is that correct?
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Loqi pagination is a UI pattern for navigation across (typically chronologically) sequential pages that show one or more posts such as permalink post pages, archives, search results, and lists of tagged posts https://indieweb.org/pagination
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jacky I only found https://indieweb.org/rel-prev
# [jdpinto1] Great, thanks for the tip. Is the use of `rel="next"` and `rel="prev"` considered “standard”? Meaning, do most h-feed parsers know how to read them?
# [jdpinto1] It seems like such a fundamental thing since most blogs use pagination to some extent. Or maybe most people just don’t care about parsing through older posts?
# sknebel it's standard, but I'd guess mostly used for consumers that explicitly try to download a full feed (e.g. site archiving tools etc), with many things that only are interested in recent changes assuming they'll crawl often enough and don't bother with it (but that's a guess, I haven't looked at what various things do in detail. the necessary info is in parser output, which is what I mostly work on)
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# [jdpinto1] Is it possible to change the `wm-received` timestamp on individual webmentions using webmention.io? I’m using brid.gy to essentially import old comments and likes from Instagram and Twitter, but the timestamp on comments shows when the webmention was sent (recently) intead of the original date the comment was made (in some cases, years ago). Any potential way around this issue? It’s relatively minor but could be confusing for people visit
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jeremycherfas Proving MUCH easier to abandon the about-me plugin on Grav and build my own h-card if I want to use Simple Icons (which I do).
# [jdpinto1] @Zegnat Can’t believe I missed that! That’s so much easier than changing a bunch of timestamps
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[davidmead] GitHub question for the group - I have idno/known cloned on my local machine so I can FTP updates to my site. Should I clone the plugins I use into the plugins folder of that local idno/known, or keep them separate?
# jeremycherfas Not there yet!
# [davidmead] thx zegnat. I’m using Coda2 which has a “publish” feature where it tracks modified files and lets me send only those up
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@ekaoddlass Last three hours i can code for personal stuff until next week. GO! https://github.com/ChristopherBiscardi/gatsby-plugin-webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1089532536097665024)
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Zegnat That could still have .git folders show up as changes though, right? Or can you exclude those folders? Another option may be to put the plugins you use into your current git as submodules (see e.g. https://github.blog/2016-02-01-working-with-submodules/) but I am not super familiar with those
# [davidmead] yeah, maybe. I have it set to ignore certain files, like .DS_Store from Dropbox. As my GitHub knowledge is less than basic I thought I’d ask 😉
# jeremycherfas Is it a problem is the h-card on my home page is different from the h-card on other pages, e.g. Single posts?
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# jeremycherfas The answer I wanted!
# [davidmead] another rookie github question - is it best to `fork` something then pull it down as, say, `djm-whatever`?
# [davidmead] over trying to `branch` in the `master`
# [davidmead] Trying to change something in indo/Known-Listen. created a branch then didn’t have permission to put that branch up to github, so i thought forking would be the way to go
# [davidmead] but that fork can’t go in the same local folder as the master i cloned
# [davidmead] just looking for best practices when playing with plugins etc
# Zegnat https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-a-remote-for-a-fork/ - basically you would see the origin is the original repo (that you cannot push to for obvious reasons), so you would want to add your own GitHub fork URL as an extra remote (maybe not call it upstream...)
# Zegnat You can then push to a specific remote: https://help.github.com/articles/pushing-to-a-remote/
# jeremycherfas All done. Now to write it up.
# jeremycherfas But speaking of getting tangled up in Git, I really want to try and get Grav's gitsync working, but first I have to work out why things that used to sync, once, no longer do. I might need to delete my /user folder on Git and then repopulate from my existing local version, but sort out gitignore before I do.
# [davidmead] that’s helpful zegnat
# [davidmead] ok jjuran. that’s what i was thinking too, but i don’t know about `upstream`. i need to read more before i dive in and “do” 😉
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# jeremycherfas What is the fi9le `.idea` that I keep seeing in `.gitignore` files? It doesn't seem to be present anywhere, so why ignore it?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "fi9le `.idea` that I keep seeing in `.gitignore` files" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "fi9le `.idea` that I keep seeing in `.gitignore` files is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# jeremycherfas So it is put there by whoever made the repository I have cloned? And they used JetBrains. Thanks.
# jeremycherfas OK. I'm trying hard to tidy up, but I don't want to throw away things that might matter. Those seem harmless.
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# jeremycherfas Thanks for the further education. Little and often ...
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