#dev 2019-08-17

2019-08-17 UTC
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shrysr how would I add the indiewebring thingy that I see on the footer of many indieweb sites?
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KartikPrabhu what is indieweb-ring?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indieweb-ring" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indieweb-ring is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu what is indieweb ring
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indieweb ring" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "indieweb ring is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu what is indiewebring
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Loqi Indiewebring is part of the great rebirth of of webrings powered by #IndieWeb technology that made 2018 the year of the webring and not the year of the microsub reader https://indieweb.org/indiewebring
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KartikPrabhu indieweb ring is /indiewebring
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Loqi ok
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KartikPrabhu indieweb-ring is indiewebring
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Loqi ok
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shrysr https://eddiehinkle.com/ if you scroll all the way down you see the indieweb Webring
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shrysr i dont see it on your webstie KartikPrabhu, but another example is kaushal modi's https://scripter.co/
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KartikPrabhu yeah I try not to have stuff that I don't use
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shrysr where he adds the 'tags' or whatever these are called - of webmentions, microformats2 etc etc
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shrysr I thought if your website is indiewebified - you are on the webring ?
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KartikPrabhu nope
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KartikPrabhu there is no one criteria for "indieweb" anyway
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KartikPrabhu apart from you post on your own site
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KartikPrabhu everything else is optional
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shrysr as far as I can see - clicking on the webring basically takes you to another indiewebified site. left or right.
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KartikPrabhu if you are part of that webring then yes
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[jgmac1106] Yeah I mantain a web ring for clmooc, a network of writing teachers, schmarty built and mantains the IndieWeb ring, aaronpk does one with microcast.ub
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[jgmac1106] microcast.club
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[Michael_Beckwit [KevinMarks] love the use of leaflets and openstreetmap in that link you mentioned yesterday
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[fluffy] okay so the more things I implement using OAuth the more I’m finding that there really isn’t a lot of commonality in terms of OAuth endpoint stuff in terms of, like, endpoint names, or the parameters they expect for token grants and revocation
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[fluffy] I’m feeling like I was a bit premature in abstracting out a base class for OAuth 😛
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aaronpk if you want to look at prior art for that kind of thing, check out OmniAuth in ruby
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[fluffy] The main thing that’s confusing me right now is actually getting the `oauth_token` to initiate the rest of an auth request in Twitter, which is different than in IndieAuth and Mastodon.
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[fluffy] and the Twitter API docs are confusing and annoying.
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[fluffy] As much as I’ve complained about the Mastodon docs, they’re really straightforward in terms of at least talking about the full login flow.
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[fluffy] oh wait I found their walkthrough. https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/basics/authentication/overview/3-legged-oauth
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aaronpk yes twitter is oauth 1.0
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aaronpk so it's totally different
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aaronpk I would definitely recommend not writing that from scratch
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[fluffy] yeah ugh
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[fluffy] know any good python implementations for it?
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[fluffy] All the stuff I’m finding out there uses flask-oauth but I don’t want to be tied to flask
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[fluffy] there’s a Python twitter module but its docs are not-great
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[fluffy] but I think that’s what I’ll have to use 😕
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aaronpk huh. i'm not familiar with the python stuff
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aaronpk but i'm sure there is something that works
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[fluffy] okay I think if I bang my head enough against https://python-twitter.readthedocs.io/en/latest/twitter.html I’ll figure it out
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[Lewis_Cowles] Right I'm awake again. Soon to resume patch work on indielogin docker + heroku
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[fluffy] oh there’s requests_oauthlib which might be easier to figure out
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[fluffy] … or I could just not support twitter
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[KevinMarks] There's https://github.com/bear/python-twitter by bear
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[fluffy] that seems to be the one I linked to above
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[fluffy] only I linked to its doc site, not the github
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[fluffy] its docs are all around, like, writing your own commandline twitter client, rather than making a login-with-twitter web application
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[fluffy] I’m sure it can do the latter but I don’t want to spelunk through the code to figure out how
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[Lewis_Cowles] [fluffy] python-twitter is the thing. The difference in web-app vs CLI is just that you have a request context, so likely configure the client once, then connect multiple times. The same would be true of a sufficiently empowered CLI app
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[Lewis_Cowles] api = twitter.Api(consumer_key=os.environ['TWITTER_CONSUMER_KEY'],
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[Lewis_Cowles] consumer_secret=os.environ['TWITTER_CONSUMER_SECRET'],
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[Lewis_Cowles] access_token_key=os.environ['TWITTER_ACCESS_TOKEN'],
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[Lewis_Cowles] access_token_secret=os.environ['TWITTER_ACCESS_TOKEN_SECRET'])
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[Lewis_Cowles] that would get you an api client using that library. You'd just need to set the appropriate environment. It could easily be extracted to a method
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[Lewis_Cowles] once you have a returned (or passed) api client you would have to read the API docs anyway to find what the methods are called
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[Lewis_Cowles] twitter_api.DestroyStatus(tweet_id) is one that works (the only endpoint I've used that library for)
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[KevinMarks] Who is bear?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Bear.im
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[KevinMarks] Silopub might be worth a look, that uses flask too, but the twitter code is pretty factored: https://github.com/kylewm/silo.pub/blob/master/silopub/twitter.py
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[KevinMarks] Or run a silopub instance and use micropub to post?
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[KevinMarks] [Michael_Beckwith] leaflet is so easy to slap map visualisations together with.
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[Lewis_Cowles] working on a healthcheck endpoint for indielogin before I go out. It looks like I forgot to tell FPM not to clobber the environment
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[Lewis_Cowles] right indielogin branch has been updated with basic healthcheck (lazy Exception catching on MySQL)
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[Lewis_Cowles] just returns a JSON response body with status of being able to get version from mysql, ping from redis
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[Lewis_Cowles] apologies to anyone that tried to deploy that heroku docker image. I forgot to tell FPM to be able to read the environment...
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[Lewis_Cowles] redis is now also settable via ENV var REDIS_URL property which reads well and is compatible with heroku
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[Lewis_Cowles] question RE: indielogin
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[Lewis_Cowles] is it just a fancy proxy to other OMNIAUTH services or does it have an internal facility?
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[Lewis_Cowles] Also SQL schema is not auto-applied (not found documentation on that)
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[Lewis_Cowles] If deploying to heroku or local docker, you'll need to execute the contents of schema.sql against the database. I added mysql-client to the Dockerfile (Although heroku providers have their own docs)
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jeremycherfas has given up on attempting a CSS-only hamburger menu with Tailwind, Going to have to be js. Or, if I can figure that out later, jquery.
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[jgmac1106] i broke down and did the same, my only javsscript right now is my hamburger menu
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[jgmac1106] I got closeish using just flexbox and media queries but just didn't like the look
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jeremycherfas I like my look, but have not yet added the js; time to go out and get some groceries.
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[jgmac1106] ohh its now called the impossible meat burger menu
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jgmac1106 well deleted my error log for Known…climbed to 80 gigs….that is a ton of errors
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[KevinMarks] Hamburger menus are kinda crappy anyway. You could use details/summary to make one.
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[KevinMarks] Or the checked trick
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jeremycherfas The checked hack didn't cut it for me, in Tailwind.
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jeremycherfas Never tried details/summary.
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jeremycherfas Will look at that if I stall again.
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[jgmac1106] ooh didn't think about that, a flexbox and then put that inside details on a media query and then go vertical
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jgmac1106 I have also never tried to not use details/summary on large displays but to use it on small….I have no idea if that could work..and at that point might as well do grid areas probably easier..its the collapse though…want that
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[grantcodes] Made a bit more progress on ownyourtrakt now. So it should support what everyone wanted. Mainly options to set categories and an option to manually set the sync start date.
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[grantcodes] It also uses a fair bit of experimental stuff. If your endpoint supports micropub property queries & updates it will look to see if you already have a watch post for an item and then update that instead of making a new post.
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[grantcodes] The only thing I am still thrown off by in the posted / created date thing. I am pretty sure what I am doing is correct, but not well documented / supported. The watch posts do not have a set published date, but have a created date in the past.
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[snarfed] aaronpk: the only recent granary/bridgy markup change was removing u-category from @-mentions, indirectly via https://github.com/snarfed/granary/commit/cec7759ddf1049182543e4a7b09d78b59cdd079f
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[grantcodes] snarfed++
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[grantcodes] They display way better in together for me now. Always seemed weird to me to have people in the categories.
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[snarfed] definitely possible that caused a bug though. I'm traveling w/o a computer until 8/26, but feel free to file an issue!
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[snarfed] glad to hear it [grantcodes]!
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[grantcodes] I also didn't see the duplicate names that aaronpk saw
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[snarfed] oh ugh, no, aaronpk is right, it probably is that u-category change. looking at http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbrid-gy.appspot.com%2Fcomment%2Ftwitter%2Faaronpk%2F1161834933377126401%2F1161878532915470336 , the names are u-mentions
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Loqi [Doug Carroll] Nice! Hope we can connect! Aaron Parecki Aaron Parecki Aaron Parecki
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[snarfed] damn. and me without my computer. crap. may not be able to deploy a fix for a week, unless someone tracks down kylewm 😁
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[Lewis_Cowles] don't give up. Label with for, checkbox sibling to the thing you wish to show / hide. Done
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aaronpk [snarfed]: granary is doing it too for some Twitter searches and lists I follow!
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aaronpk I don't understand how that code change caused the markup to do this, otherwise I'd at least submit a PR
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[KevinMarks] Kyle is around on twitter https://twitter.com/kylewmahan/status/1162514428627079168?s=20
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@kylewmahan This is dumb, but it would make a lot of my code and documents prettier if "Redshift" and "Snowflake" had the same number of letters (twitter.com/_/status/1162514428627079168)
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GWG I miss him in here
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jeremycherfas If mobile first is a good thing, then I have achieved a good thing. Now to try and make it pretty at other sizes.
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jacky :)
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jacky mobile first makes the website flexible!
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[fluffy] Okay I went to bed before I got those responses but I think folks are assuming too much about what I want twitter integration for. This isn’t for POSSE, it’s for federated login, so other people can log in to my website using their twitter identity.
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[fluffy] The POSSE case is pretty easy and is what is well documented on python-twitter but that’s not the use case I’m trying to build.
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[fluffy] I currently use ifttt for my POSSE because it’s Good Enough.
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[fluffy] I guess I could have been more clear in how I made my request.
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[fluffy] What’s missing in the python-twitter docs is: how to get from the consumer_key/secret to the URL to request the access_key/secret, and how to obtain the acces_key/secret from the callback response.
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[fluffy] anyway I opened https://github.com/bear/python-twitter/issues/629 and I’ll also look into silo.pub, thanks [KevinMarks]
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Loqi [fluffy-critter] #629 How to implement "login with twitter?"
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[fluffy] looks like silo.pub uses requests_oauthlib which is something I was poking at as well, and this code looks like a perfect example of how to use it (which is also something I couldn’t figure out from the docs)
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[fluffy] KevinMarks++ for finding the thing I needed 🙂
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jeremycherfas Here’s hoping, jacky
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[KevinMarks] Kylewm++ for writing silopub
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[KevinMarks] And snarfed++ for the whole abstraction of login on Bridgy and granary
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[tantek] snarfed++ for demoting Twitter @-mentions to mentions instead of person-tags
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