#dev 2020-02-29

2020-02-29 UTC
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GWG Is anyone posting to a Micropub endpoint using h=cite?
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@tomirss JavaScript - Qiita コメント欄はいらない！Webmentionを使ってブログにツイッターでの反応を表示する　（Part 1） https://qiita.com/jlkiri/items/d56ec812fa8de7a740e2 (twitter.com/_/status/1233688641836285952)
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[jgmac1106] [Zegnat] I was able to add to the admin dashbaord using YAML alone and made an interfcae for checkins pretty easily...but I could never get webmentions twork so I walked away
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[jgmac1106] but that could have been my shared host
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Zegnat It is about the vue bits. Just couldn’t be bothered. Already digging into React&Co for work and have no interest in picking up another JS rendering thing.
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Zegnat Also tried to get their example of a plugin for the login form to work. (IndieAuth?) And couldn’t even get that tutorial to work for me. Just gave up at that point.
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[jgmac1106] Exact point where I walked away
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Zegnat I do really like a lot of the tech, do not get me wrong. Their static files to rendering a site is real nice and something I have played with in earlier versions of Kirby as well.
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Zegnat But I am specifically looking for a good admin interface right now. Not something that only helps me to write code.
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[jgmac1106] if admin interfacae is goal Drupal will beat WP IMO
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[jgmac1106] plus Drupal indieweb stuff still aligned with Drupal core, at somepoint Classic Editor and Wordpress will become unsustainable
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[jgmac1106] we just redid our entire website at work from a third party CMS to Drupal I really like the interface....and you wouldn't struggle with installing and launching Drupal
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[jgmac1106] that's the part that keeps it out of reach for people
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[jgmac1106] our web dev (poor guy one person for entire university) was able to custom code a bunch of PHP Publishing UI and build them in
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[jgmac1106] [Zegnat] did you ever try Perch?
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GWG [jgmac1106]: To answer your question a bit more devy, this needs an API endpoint to work with Gutenberg...or to completely eliminate the need for WordPress admin
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[jgmac1106] I went through wordpress and read the notes
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[jgmac1106] now I understand a bit more. I was never a pinboard user so I didn;t have a model in my head
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Zegnat What is Perch?
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Loqi Perch and Perch Runway are a content management systems based on PHP+MySQL https://indieweb.org/Perch
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[jgmac1106] I am really tempted to try it
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[jgmac1106] I have been loving hand rolling my site with committment not to use anything I can understand/build...but it will be years before I have some functionality
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GWG We all dream big
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Zegnat I do not think I am the audience for Perch
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[jgmac1106] ..and going to an annual contract
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[jgmac1106] I am trying to avoid more of those
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[jgmac1106] all that work on a calendar layouts and Kevin's hot linked images with modals looks so much nicer: https://dogtrax.edublogs.org/2020/02/29/clmooc-a-month-of-poems/
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[jgmac1106] I haven't tried CSS only modals, I was reading about that. Might be fun
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[jgmac1106] tempted to make a wiki page for lear pear challenges....since a 29 day challenge fits neither 30 or 100
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[jgmac1106] year*
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[jgmac1106] pear leaping isn't that challenging
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[jgmac1106] gwg https://jgregorymcverry.com/poetryportpoems ended up as a bunch of h-cites nested in an h-entry
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GWG Interesting
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GWG So, a collection of sorts
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Zegnat Hmm, I am unsure what h-cite adds there
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[jgmac1106] the poem was previously published elsewhere...I may have to go back and look
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[jgmac1106] but it maybe that when the links were in e-content they did not show in inroreader using granary but they did with nested h-cite
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[jgmac1106] What i was going for in my head was like a poem journal where each day is an entry
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[jgmac1106] and in that entry I collect all the poems I publish from all over the web
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[jgmac1106] https://indieweb.org/h-cite#FAQ
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[jgmac1106] and looking closely I do not have the e-content on the h-entries for each day
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[jgmac1106] zegnat the h-cite is also a legacy of me incorrectly using h-item because I had read an outdated FAQ on minimum requirements for an h-entry and didn't want a dt-published on everything
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[jgmac1106] then after tlaking to people went with h-cite, nested h-entries don't play well with parsers, atleast what Granary uses, those came up blank in inoreader
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[jgmac1106] nested h-cite either ignored or parsed..dunno, does work in RSS readers though
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Zegnat I guess I am mostly wondering why you would mark up those links with anything at all. But h-cite is fine for referring to outside content from within a post. So not saying it is the wrong choice, I am just wondering what made you do it in the first place
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Zegnat Every h-entry (being a single say) could just have an odered list (<ol>) in its content that links to the poems in order of publication, or something like that. Would show up in all sorts of readers just fine
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[jgmac1106] yeah it was a legacy of a mistake, but I want a top level h* in case poems get different licenses
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[jgmac1106] I mean I could add a rel="license and a link to the correct CC but just feels like each poem is it's own thing
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[jgmac1106] I would want contained as an entry I could share, so it also makes them easier to move around my website modularity wise
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[jgmac1106] which is when I got what gwg is trying to do with his work
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GWG Yes, separating functionality
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Zegnat Drupal installation going well so far, just sad I had to downgrade PHP version to run the installer
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sknebel idly thinking about markup for the game secrets/randomness discussion
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sknebel although maybe a helper/tutorial for manual until it hurts would be an nicer first step
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@Pauho It’s been great to see a lot of cool places opening in Govanhill recently – not least a photo lab around the corner from my flat(!). The place just continues to go from strength to strength. Also posted to: * http://brid.gy (https://pauho.net/?p=261) (twitter.com/_/status/1233817978841509888)
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