#dev 2020-04-27
2020-04-27 UTC
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Loqi iOS is the operating system that runs on the Apple iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch https://indieweb.org/iOS
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[LewisCowles] I'm now wondering if I can use any of the things from the weekend for a visual CMS editor. I really dislike TinyMCE and WordPress editor complexity, but would like a little more than text-boxes.
# [LewisCowles] I've also awoken with 7 more ideas for kanban. At some stage it might be easier to write my own board software that doesn't rely on JS or third party buy-in
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# [LewisCowles] don't make me cry that someone else has solved my little problem lol
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jeremycherfas Do you like Markdown [LewisCowles]
# [LewisCowles] Ish
# [LewisCowles] I don't hate it
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# [LewisCowles] but it's ultimately not very expressive without extensions, which limit it's consuming case
# jeremycherfas I do like it, and almost everything I write originates in Markdown. And yes, I tend to favour Multimarkdown.
# [LewisCowles] I'd like support for dl/dt, details + summary, citation to go with blockquotes (GitHub actively removes citations and it very much triggers cave-man smash brain)
# [LewisCowles] I'm used to writing a subset of GitHub flavoured markdown
# [LewisCowles] table-format in GitHub just takes too much thinking to not check if I've done it right while also authoring, although I love tabular data in markdown
# jeremycherfas I'm sure you don't need me to tell you this, but you can always include HTML in a markdown document. That would certainly give you details and summary.
# jeremycherfas funnily enough, one of the things I don't like about Markdown is tables, because ignoring whitespace makes them difficult to read except in a renderer.
# [LewisCowles] I do include them. Posted one to indieweb GitHub issue over weekend, but only picked up from olleolleolle, co-worker and rails contrib. He and another co-worker showed me lovely things and through their websites I found the IndieWeb
# [LewisCowles] one issue with embedding HTML in markdown is that it can affect markdown to other formats conversion
# [LewisCowles] it's like JS and CSS in SVG, not all renderers support fully
# jeremycherfas Olle Jonsson? Small world. Tonz suggested he and I meet yup when he was last here in Rome and we had a great chat.
# [LewisCowles] He is a lovely person
# jeremycherfas No argument from me on that score.
# [LewisCowles] if you get a chance to meet Morgan, steward of SinonJS they are equally as much of a delight
# [LewisCowles] I believe they are involved with HWC Berlin
# jeremycherfas If he comes to Rome, I how I will.
# jeremycherfas Hope
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# [LewisCowles] I'll 👀 thank you both for exploring new things with me
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[jgmac1106] as a call back to the plurality around databases and the trouble you can get in around fragility just go read the Known chat....getting worried I am gonna have to decommission my site and star over
# [LewisCowles] The struggle is real, and it reminds me again why I did not want to support MongoDB in production despite upstream assertions that "it's just a snap install away" (literally the worst thing you could tell me)
# [jgmac1106] ReVIEW uses MongoDB.....I have paid thousands in lost hours for this mistake (especially around user provisioning)
# [jgmac1106] 2nd quarter of next year scheduled for a complete rebuild...well that was before every k12 school closed....shutting down 100% of revenue streams
# [LewisCowles] It's not MongoDB being bad in this case. It's more that the statement, just use the Snap makes me think that person doesn't appreciate what could go wrong. I was raised in an era of Haynes-style & encyclopedic manuals where you can take each component down to it's components until you have standalone machined parts
# [LewisCowles] I used to love OHT sheets from the old projectors as their layered approach to detail is very powerful. I believe a similar technique should be used to lower the load generating cartographic maps
# [jgmac1106] overhead transparency sheets? love the callback....I was probably last generation of teachers to use one before digital projectors
# [LewisCowles] and I do feel like many of the kids will miss out if used appropriately, they were way more engaging in pedagogy than some video. It's just easier to purchase a video from one vendor at a fixed price than train a million teachers.
# [LewisCowles] not kids... learners
# [LewisCowles] another thing I hope the next generation pushes. The idea school and even university are not the end
# [jgmac1106] more chat but make the community the campus...I lay gpx maps on top of each other all the time...just go learn ARCGIS.....the complexity to redo what the transparencies did.....
# [jgmac1106] ..of course the etl data ingestion kinda hard to do with OHT
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# [jgmac1106] wether app: https://github.com/Rey810/Weather-App
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# [jgmac1106] [LewisCowles] didn't realize it , just thought some files failed to upload, then I realized...wait having exactly 1,000 files sees too perfect a number
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# [LewisCowles] Oh per-folder.
# [jgmac1106] yeah but I had everything in /music/
# [jgmac1106] gwg I do too but some of my files 20+ years old...lets just say humans not that good at metadata entry
# [LewisCowles] I feel your pain [jgmac1106]. There is a Github issue where they blame the database
# [LewisCowles] a theme doth form
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# [jgmac1106] feeling a creative need to make a movie trailer for a horror film about databases haunting me...feel free to drop script ides in chat
# fuzzyBear Hey folks, Im new here, been told to join a few IRC's based on web development as I study, wonder if this is a good place to hang out in?
# [LewisCowles] It makes a bit of sense when I think about it. It seems my own file uploader requires a smaller number of files per-folder
# [jgmac1106] welcome fuzzyBear...its a great place to lurk and learn, lead and learn, or live and learn..we just stress the best way to do this is from your own website
# [jgmac1106] yeah [LewisCowles] I will just split into 3-4 folders...proll a-z otherwise I will have taxonomic fits trying to decide what does into which buckets and wha those buckets should be
# fuzzyBear thanks man, I have already added this to the bookmarks, i agree with your philo on learning, kinda wnated a career change and felt like the udemy course were costly and a flase economy. I found MDN and been slowly crawling through it ever since
# [jgmac1106] fuzzyBear another thing for web development students to know while there are some playing with latest and greatest in front end engineering....we go more a route..shouldn't take an engineer to publish a website....just a bit of HTML, CSS optional, javascript, cautioned
# [LewisCowles] I don't think I'd noticed or committed to memory, but AWS has a document I can share where they advise that more prefixes, which is their partition key, are how to get the most performance out of S3
# [jgmac1106] just really get a place online and tell your story as you learn out loud (or privately), find a community where your learning goals align to their values and the network and you get smarter at same time
# [jgmac1106] just to let youknow fuzzyBear we have #indieweb-meta for event planning, or stuff; #indieweb for general purpose info, and there is an unlogged chat for water cooler like talk
# [jgmac1106] What is discuss?
# Loqi Join the #indieweb discussion via the web, Slack, IRC, or Matrix clients now with additional channels for dev, wordpress, and meta specific chat! https://indieweb.org/discuss
# fuzzyBear [jgmac1106] mate thank you for the feedback, I am just in the midst of setting up matrix so I can get more involved,
# fuzzyBear Loqi , thanks
# [LewisCowles] Loqi is the chat bot
# [LewisCowles] I found that confusing too
# fuzzyBear ah...>.<
# [jgmac1106] irc works just as well and you can scroll back through chat.indieweb.org but these are more #indieweb-meta stuff feel free to come back to #indieweb-dev with questions about how to build your website or tools with IndieWeb building blocks
# [jgmac1106] Who is LewisCowles?
# Loqi Lewis Cowles is just looking to learn more about IndieWeb for now https://indieweb.org/User:Www.lewiscowles.co.uk
# [jgmac1106] Loqi does lots of friendly stuff for us
# [jgmac1106] Who is Loqi?
# Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
# [LewisCowles] Who is jgmac1106?
# Loqi J. Gregory McVerry (Greg) is an educator trying to use the web to help engineer better teachers https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com
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# [jgmac1106] micro.blog and twitter both use 280
# [jgmac1106] which is just a historical artifact of doubling twitters 140 which came from sms limits...maybe even further back into history others will have to share
# [jgmac1106] I think the character limit depends more on typography and design...how much real estate you want a a comment to take up....a read more button after a certain number is nice
# [jgmac1106] folks like chrisaldich like writing blog posts as webmention replies if you need use cases
# [jgmac1106] chrisaldtich oops
# [jgmac1106] grrrr you know who I mean
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