#dev 2021-02-01

2021-02-01 UTC
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jacky oof I think my IndieAuth implementation is officially out of date now lol
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jacky because I can't sign into Aperture
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jacky https://i.imgur.com/mKn6uua.png is what I'm seeing
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jacky I'm also seeing new parameters (code_challenge?)
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jacky oooh there _is_ an update
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jacky this is good
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jacky I might have to 'stamp' my version of IndieAuth against the latest version somehow
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aaronpk hmm this relatively large influx poof people using web mention.it means i’m due to spend some time on some upgrades to it. i’m getting some UX questions now
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aaronpk s/poof/of
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aaronpk dammit autocorrect
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aaronpk webmention.io
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[KevinMarks] mention.it for the italian port
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@XabCorinti #100DaysOfCode R3|D1 A new run after a long time! In the next hours I'll be revamping my website with awesome https://11ty-netlify-jumpstart.netlify.app/ by @5t3ph (always @eleven_ty ) Mine focus right now? The comment system: I've an old Staticman archive and I'm intrigued with webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1356164546357047297)
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[KevinMarks] Ironically, I can't log into openid.net with indieauth.com any more https://signin.openid.net/openid1/start?language_preference=en&token_url=https%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Ffoundation%2Fmembers%2Frpx&display=popup&widget=true&openid_identifier=openid&origin_url=mobile&provider_name=openid&force_reauth=false&xdReceiver=https%3A%2F%2Fsignin.openid.net%2Fxdrsw&callback=none&widget_type=auth&token_action=url&applicationId=ephmagojjkekheedpkgf
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[KevinMarks] https://openid.indieauth.com/auth?me=http://www.kevinmarks.com&redirect_uri=%2Fopenid%2Fcomplete
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aaronpk ah yeah i need to fis that still
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aaronpk i didn’t know openid.net even had login for anything
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aaronpk if you change the redirect URL in the URL to add the https://indieauth.com then it works
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[KevinMarks] This was the voting link
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[KevinMarks] https://openid.net/foundation/members/elections/46
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[KevinMarks] I could login with Google but that seems not quite the spirit of things
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aaronpk the real irony is that their login uses the deprecated (according to them) OpenID 1
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[pfefferle] and for the internal login (member area) they still use the janrain service…
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[KevinMarks] https://twitter.com/googlesearchc/status/1356237121187700738?s=20
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@googlesearchc If you're using http://data-vocabulary.org structured data, keep in mind that we no longer support that format for rich results: https://twitter.com/googlesearchc/status/1322236415816560640 (twitter.com/_/status/1356237121187700738)
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[pfefferle] ah, [kevinmarks] also used the members login… as far as I know, it is the (old) janrain widget, that runs on a subdomain.
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[pfefferle] [kevinmarks] [aaronpk] https://signin.openid.net/
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aaronpk in other news, looks like my simple anti-spam trick worked https://i.imgur.com/c6H0KMi.png
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aaronpk [KevinMarks]: i fixed it!
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bhavin192 aaronpk, nice!
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btrem Back in the day, web devs were warned not to use elements with class in a single css selector, e.g., `p.foo {}`or `div.bar`. Is that still considered best practice? If so, why? If anyone has any relevant links, I'd love to see them.
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btrem Old articles tend to discuss the processing cost on browsers, but I hardly think that's relevant these days.
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] do you mean (moving from #indieweb) use mastodon as a micropub client? interesting
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[KevinMarks] It feels like they have most of the pieces already
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[tantek] right, I suppose a Mastodon user could setup POSSE that way too
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[fluffy] that’d certainly be a better setup than my current janky series of tubes
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[fluffy] atom -> ifttt -> twitter -> mastodon 😛
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[tantek] POSSE *to* masto would require Mastodon to be a Micropub server
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[KevinMarks] Or a silo.pub style adaptor
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jacky btrem: I think that's context-dependent th
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jacky *tbh
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btrem I think I'm going to add some classes and use elementname.classname in my css and see if it causes problems in my workflow.
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jacky scoping CSS is hard in general :)
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jacky what is indieaurth
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indieaurth" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indieaurth is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky what is indieauth
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Loqi IndieAuth is a federated login protocol for Web sign-in, enabling users to use their own domain to sign in to other sites and services https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth
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@jamesvandyne Webmention sending is working with Tanzawa. Not prod ready, but working. https://tanzawa.jamesvandyne.com/3718e1ef-4fe1-45ba-8f77-e120d7404273 (twitter.com/_/status/1356369646077706240)
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aaronpk hahahahaha tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 16 karma in this channel over the last year (82 in all channels)
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Loqi hehe
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aaronpk i came here to make this suggestion too and found you had already done it https://github.com/mdn/content/pull/1957
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Loqi [tantek] #1957 rm unuseful "not a programming" framing
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aaronpk i like how random people can approve PRs
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aaronpk adds his approval
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[tantek] lololol here I thought I would sneak that by
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aaronpk i found that in some jerk's "well actually" twitter reply and was like "hey isn't this thing editable?" then went to check if anyone else had already suggested it
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[tantek] 😄
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aaronpk honestly i didn't realize people still believed so strongly that html "isn't programming" 🙄 but wowwwww
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[tantek] yeah it was an excellent 🍯
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btrem Hmm. I've always thought html is not a programming language. But I'm not really interested in an argument atm, so I'll happily stipulate to whatever.
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aaronpk sure it has very different properties compared to turing-complete programming languages, but the point was more about the gatekeeping around the idea