#dev 2021-02-13

2021-02-13 UTC
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jacky my website can't determine what's more important to warn about: someone using `response_type=id` or about the lack of PKCE params lol
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aaronpk 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨
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jacky lol I'm just making one of them show up as an error
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jacky the _real_ problem is that I can't surface more than one flash warning to the client tbh
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[tantek] jacky++ take the no-screens day 🙂
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Loqi jacky has 31 karma in this channel over the last year (109 in all channels)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Rotana Ty, I'm curious if you've tried using any of the IndieWeb plugin suite for WordPress? Webmention/Semantic Linkback plugins for site-to-site notifications/conversation or Micropub plugin and clients for making posting simpler? (http://boffosocko.com/2021/02/12/55786995/) (twitter.com/_/status/1360491198964637696)
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Danielstaleiny is there any browser plugin which publishes content on your own site ? with micropub ?
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Danielstaleiny I am looking for something like, right click on image and publish on your own site.
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jeremycherfas There's Omnibear and Quill, though I'm not sure either of those will do the exact thing you are suggesting. See also https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Clients
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Danielstaleiny thank you I will try them out.
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@raymondcamden Looking at my webmention data and so far no replies or likes, just "entry" responses. Is that normal? (twitter.com/_/status/1360605104781590543)
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Danielstaleiny maybe you are looking at the `type`, instead of `post-type`
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Danielstaleiny @raymondcamden
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sebsel it’s a tweet, Loqi is just the messenger :)
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@EatPodcast ↩️ Are you actually displaying the webmentions anywhere? I looked at your sire and couldn't see any, so it is hard to know how to proceed. You might get more help at https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2021-02-13#bottom (twitter.com/_/status/1360614510852263941)
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@EatPodcast ↩️ Are you actually displaying the webmentions anywhere? I looked at your site and couldn’t see any, so it is hard to know how to proceed. You might get more help at https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2021-02-13#bottom (twitter.com/_/status/1360615612704251908)
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[schmarty] Oh! jacky I saw you posting about web/xmpp on your site. keyframe.live has a setup for this for the chat part of livestream! The site seems to be gone today though. 🤔
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[schmarty] Kicking myself for not grabbing a copy of it from fossil.keyframe.live
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aaronpk what happnend to it?
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[schmarty] Just can't get to the site today
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aaronpk huh
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aaronpk oh that reminds me of a hack i was thinking about doing for my robocall phone situation
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aaronpk i don’t know why that reminded me
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aaronpk i was thinking about making my “contact” page show my phone number but also have some sort of login mechanism (email, twitter, etc) and then once you log in it would show you a 4 digit code, and then you’d enter that code after calling the number, and *then* it would connect to my actual phone
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sknebel [schmarty]: I've pinged them about it
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[schmarty] sknebel++ ooh thanks!!
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Loqi sknebel has 15 karma in this channel over the last year (45 in all channels)
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sknebel (server seems to have disappeared for some reason, not intentional)
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@confuzd_ ↩️ Presenting: https://indieauth.net/ Nutzt auch niemand, aber die Idee ist da. (twitter.com/_/status/1360633991263645696)
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@raymondcamden ↩️ Ah - I need this: https://brid.gy/ (twitter.com/_/status/1360640992320376833)
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@Yoplala4 ↩️ Yop ! Merci pour ce podcast vraiment sympa ! <3 Vous discutez à un moment donné du blog d'un certain Jeremy (IndieWeb ?), mais je ne trouve pas de lien dans les "Show Notes" !? Vers 1:10, en même temps que Nicolas et les "Webmentions" ! Merci d'avance :) (twitter.com/_/status/1360649012882395136)
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[chrisaldrich] Informal survey: I'm sure the results may vary depending on the site and by implementation/support. I'm curious what everyone thinks about which are the best feeds (for richness of data and fidelity) to subscribe to in practice (this is not a theoretical question, but one about your personal experience in the wild) when using social readers that discover multiple feeds with choices being roughly RSS, Atom, h-feed, JSON feed, (others?).
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[chrisaldrich] That is, if a site has all of these feeds available, which would you choose and which order by rank?
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[chrisaldrich] I think the answer is no, but do any of the social readers display sample outputs for each available feed to help the user decide which to choose?
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@jkup ↩️ I'm testing https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/! (twitter.com/_/status/1360671449955131400)
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[schmarty] chrisaldrich I think together shows a feed preview but that's the only one I can think of. I will usually eyeball a page that claims to have h-feed and maybe even run it through monocle's feed preview to see if it's legit. Next would be JSON feed but sometimes those aren't legit because it json feed shares a mimetype with oembed. Often I will end up picking RSS or Atom, whichever the site offers (I can't think of a time recently when a site
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[schmarty] has offered a choice between those)
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[schmarty] Monocle's feed preview is a useful standalone tool
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Danielstaleiny how could I test webmentions ? Could somebody ping me with webmention ? https://rafaj.dev/
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Loqi Daniel Rafaj
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Danielstaleiny damn, Let me fix my layout first. I think that is the issue.
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Danielstaleiny okey, fixed.
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Danielstaleiny Could somebody webmention me ? https://rafaj.dev/b/offline-first/
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Danielstaleiny I want to test if I get notifications.
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Loqi Offline first application will force you to design website which performs overall better than otherwise javascript infested application performs.
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aaronpk Danielstaleiny: Try https://webmention.rocks you can make it send webmentions to you
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aaronpk you can also send a webmention to yourself from the chat logs
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Danielstaleiny ah thank you :)
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chrisaldrich aaronpk, by sending from the chat logs, do you mean using something like https://telegraph.p3k.io/send-a-webmention and putting https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2021-02-13#t1613246345462300 into the source box? Or is there another way to do that from chat?
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[chrisaldrich] thanks Marty! That sounds roughly similar to my experience, but I'm curious what others' experiences are.
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aaronpk yep that’s what i meant
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aaronpk or sending it manually
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aaronpk since it’s just a post request to your own webmention endpoint which you would know already
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aaronpk in my experience, h-feed is the best feed to subscribe to, except if the site is wordpress. next best is JSONFeed, and Atom/RSS in last
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sebsel I think the above link works, but, this is a more direct link to the message: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2021-02-13/1613246345462300
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aaronpk oh yeah i’d go with the full per a link not the fragment
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Loqi [Danielstaleiny] Could somebody webmention me ? https://rafaj.dev/b/offline-first/
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aaronpk permalink
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aaronpk thanks autocorrect
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[chrisaldrich] Loqi seems to agree.
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sebsel (difference it that it does not have #t but a /)
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sebsel !meme give urls to all the things
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/5BBzcreF.jpg
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sebsel that was not the meme I was looking for but okay :’)
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[chrisaldrich] Yes, it's a better URL for this case. Too often I use the other format which provides the surrounding context.
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@jamesvandyne It was a long week - but Tanzawa now supports IndieAuth and Micropub! Post to Tanzawa with any app or service that supports micropub. https://tanzawa.jamesvandyne.com/6e7a89b0-83a9-401e-9002-2c7846030a37 (twitter.com/_/status/1360717643804672004)