#dev 2021-04-22

2021-04-22 UTC
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jacky lol, the thing that was the easiest to do for any Web project sometimes feels like the backend for me
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jacky frontend stuff requires way more thought
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aaronpk yup
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vilhalmer lol, I work mostly on internal cli tools and the interface is still often the hardest part
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vilhalmer "this code is easy, right until the human needs to tell it what to do"
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jacky _exactly_
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jacky humans are the problem
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jacky every time, lol
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[snarfed] “things break when people touch them”
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vilhalmer ironically breaking them is technically my job
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vilhalmer I just wish they'd stop breaking _mine_ and break the stuff it's supposed to break
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vilhalmer designing error messages is one of the most important skills I have learned
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vilhalmer because when I fail, I get slack messages
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aaronpk ha good motivation
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@alleyco Webmentions let you pull tweets, other blogs, and activity from around the web into your site. @indigitalcolor explains how to add this functionality to a NextJS website. https://aboutmonica.com/blog/getting-started-with-webmention-next-js (twitter.com/_/status/1385258671408615426)
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[aciccarello] I wonder if that framing is misleading in that it makes webmention sound like it can pull information into your site rather than pushing information from your site. I would say tools like Bridgy allows you to pull in tweets by pushing to your site. 🤔 (perhaps this is more #indieweb-meta )
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[tantek] this is the right place for that aciccarello 🙂
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[tantek] Webmentions allow both, and it's ok for folks to focus on specific use-cases like that in context
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jacky hmm
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jacky that's an interesting way to position it - less about the actual pipes of Webmention and more about what you can do with it
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jacky like people don't talk about Instacart being a fleet management system for patrons and workers, it's a delivery service of groceries near you
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[tantek] precisely jacky. center the use-case, not the platform/plumbing.
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[tantek] / protocol
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barnabywalters well my audio streaming server still works, but apparently firefox can’t play live m3u streams any more :(
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[aciccarello] That's a great point
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barnabywalters looks like safari can, ff and chrome not
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stevestreza jacky: Here's a sample nginx config for multicasting RTMP from OBS (or whatever), I used this to help my partner stream to both Twitch and YouTube, but any RTMP URL should work https://git.stevestreza.com/-/snippets/108
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barnabywalters so if I want to do any self-hosted live stuff, looks like it’s time to abandon icecast
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jacky oh this is simple enough tbh
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jacky thanks stevestreza
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[KevinMarks] That's weird as HLS works through m3u so there should be some way to do it
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barnabywalters tbf all I tried was opening the URL directly, and embedding it in an <audio> element. the audio element did nothing, and the direct URL access prompted a download
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barnabywalters and I tend to assume that if FF can’t play a file type when you access its URL, it probably can’t play it at all
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jacky yeah
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vilhalmer is the content-type set?
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jacky grumbles randomly in a lack of a mf2 parser in rust
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barnabywalters it definitely used to work five years ago!
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barnabywalters jacky: funny you should mention that, I’m currently learning rust, and have some experience writing mf2 parsers…
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barnabywalters vilhalmer: AFAIK it is, although I don’t have direct control over it as it’s being served by icecast2
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barnabywalters but safari manages to play it just fine
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vilhalmer ah yeah I'd expect that to set it correctly
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jacky barnabywalters: I'll happily contribute to it!
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barnabywalters as does VLC, if I download the file
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jacky I wonder if Safari is doing some content sniffing
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barnabywalters good to know, I’ll keep it in mind! I don’t feel confident enough in rust to be able to do a really good job at it, but then I started php-mf2 when I had very little experience, and it turned out okay…
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jacky I hear it's the lifeblood of some projects :)
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barnabywalters jacky: are you building your new site backend in rust?
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jacky parts of it
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jacky like the more 'static'-y parts
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barnabywalters ah, so you’re making a static site generator in rust, rather than having a rust app serving your site?
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GWG barnabywalters: https://github.com/dshanske/Static-Maps-API-PHP is my fork. I backported a bunch of aaronpk's Atlas improvements and made some changes of my own
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GWG I also have it doing FastCGI caching in Nginx to save the maps
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Loqi [dshanske] Static-Maps-API-PHP: A PHP app that renders static maps from tile hosting services
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jacky !tell barnabywalters not entirely, I'm splitting my site up into chunks that work to make a whole. in short, I've moved the micropub and indieauth bits to separate projects and have a small static site that aims to use the generated files from the micropub app to render my site
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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