#dev 2021-05-03

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aaronpk agreed
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[KevinMarks] I am a fan of the kinds of js hacking that involve wasm and a c library like https://feross.org/bitmidi/
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vilhalmer cpython for wasm when
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vilhalmer now, apparently https://github.com/wapm-packages/python
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Loqi [wapm-packages] python: Python ported to Wasm + WASI
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sparseMatrix that is some dive esoterica right there, I tell ya whut...
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sparseMatrix *devine
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sparseMatrix cancels the typing and spelling lessons
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sknebel I feel like I've seen a sqlite thing like that based on webtorrent(?) in the past, which is also a fun variation
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jacky oh that's clever
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jacky ha I almost want to use that for my own site
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lahacker https://github.com/bittorrent/sqltorrent .. linked from above, similarly uses a VFS but crucially, uses libtorrent, signed off by arvid himself .. https://feross.org/libtorrent-webtorrent/ "libtorrent adds support for the WebTorrent protocol" .. mind blown from last three links .. didn't know i needed midi queen in this late hour
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tomlarkworthy just got it working in a notebook https://observablehq.com/@tomlarkworthy/phiresky-sqlite-query
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tomlarkworthy pretty damn cool
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@indigitalcolor ↩️ Some of the technologies I used on my personal site include: Gatsby, GraphQL, MDX and Webmention. https://aboutmonica.com (twitter.com/_/status/1389220703971446793)
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sparseMatrix anybody around
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sparseMatrix I need to do some public thinking
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sparseMatrix here's' the deal, for good or ill....my whole approach has been to leverage the hell out of markdown
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sparseMatrix there's a couple reasons
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sparseMatrix - semantic web
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sparseMatrix simplicity in authoring workflow
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sparseMatrix and similar simplicity searching/indexing
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sparseMatrix I present it as web content 'just in time' when a browser requests a post.
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sparseMatrix I do this by converting the markdown to html using markdown2, and sandwiching the result between an html 'prologue' and an html 'epilogue'
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sparseMatrix those are more or less generic, and ripe with possibilites involving headers, footers, etc.
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sparseMatrix it's where I set CSS, for instance
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sparseMatrix the thing is, the those are not stored in the document.
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sparseMatrix so making an h-entry of the markdown (for practical purposes) doesn't really seem like it will work
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sparseMatrix first, I solicit critique. I suspect that the way I am doing this may run afoul of what is considered to be good sense in this context
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sparseMatrix second, I solicit suggestions
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sparseMatrix Ah well, I at least got all that off my chest :)
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sparseMatrix an idea is taking shape heh
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sparseMatrix it's going something like this:
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sparseMatrix there is no reason I have to use the pre/post html hardcoded in the software, and no reason I can't write them into files. I just can't write them into the markdown.
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[manton] sparseMatrix: I’m curious what problems specifically you’re running into with the h-entry? Is it that you don’t have enough metadata (like post title and date) when you’re generating the HTML, or something else?
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sparseMatrix so use the hardcoded in the event no file exists. if the file exists, use it and potentially update it. The key is to name it with the post name as a component of the name
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[manton] I run into similar issues sometimes in Micro.blog where my MF2 is not as “complete” as I would like, but all the basics are still there.
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sparseMatrix then the html pre/post could contain per-post hentry information
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sparseMatrix [manton] the problem is largely with updating a post
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sparseMatrix I don't want to have the h-entry/h-card metadata in the editor with the post author's content
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sparseMatrix it's kind of like the separation of content concern
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sparseMatrix even though python's markdown2 doesn't mind it being there
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sparseMatrix Basically, I want the tool to be used for *writing*, without a lot of fussing about with the presentation
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sparseMatrix even if I did include the h-entry metadata, it would be awkward to figure out if it were already present when the file is (re)written
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sparseMatrix but I think I just designed my way around the problem :)
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[manton] Sometimes just talking through a problem leads to the solution. Good luck. 🙂
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jacky [manton]: have you considered having some sort of a 'headless' sign up for micro.blog? I could see this being put behind a paid service to combat spam / malignant use but I'm thinking about ways to make it easy to 'start' from a social reader and was considering doing that _from_ the reader
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jacky granted, a legit solution would do something like "Sign in with Micro.blog" or another provider and that could doubly serve as a way to sign up for that service
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jacky has a bunch of musings from the weekend
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sparseMatrix Thanks [manton] you can bet when I cross the finish line with it you'll hear me crowin' :D
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sparseMatrix jacky: I made a thing once that created a crypto key by signing the browser signature with a type1 uuid, which I then set in a cookie on that browser
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sparseMatrix from that point forward, the user could use my file service, who's files were stored in a folder named after his key, to access his files
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sparseMatrix 0 credentials, in a sense
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sparseMatrix the granularity of the type I url made it stupid impractical to try to guess a user's hash
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sparseMatrix err, type I UUID
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sparseMatrix it could only be used *from that browser* though, and god forbid you should clear your cookies :p
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[manton] [jacky] I haven’t thought much about it, but I think it’s a really interesting idea. Definitely would like to explore it.
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jacky I'm thinking on it more mainly from a social reader standpoint - sign in is solid but signing up (or really, either getting your site compatible with the social reader _or_ getting a site from a service) is an implementation detail that needs research
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[manton] [jacky] Can you expand on that a little? Are you thinking of the use-case of e.g. launching Monocle and pointing it at Microsub on Micro.blog without needing to go out and create an account separately?
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jacky precisely
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[manton] Gotcha. That could be a really nice way to get started.
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jacky I think it'd require a bit of knowledge of some internals for each platform but I _think_ we could maybe lean into some sort of standard for provisioning people here
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jacky people/accounts/etc
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jacky another win here is that someone on a phone or a native app could potentially never leave the app (outside of some external verification)
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jacky I could also be looking at this from the wrong angle (do we want more people or more high-quality tools?)
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[manton] Both! 🙂
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jacky ha
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jacky then yeah I think that could help some clients
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[snarfed] we did this for Bridgy too, lots of discussion when it happened, feel free to see if any is useful: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/240
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Loqi [snarfed] #240 signup API for @idno
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jacky oh this is good prior art
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jacky this bit esp: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/240#issuecomment-58674591
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Loqi [kylewm] deployed! logs look good so far. the only thing I haven't been able to figure out is on the redirect from facebook I always get a fragment `#_=_`, even though I explicitly try to avoid this by using super.redirect here https://github.com/snarfed/brid...
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[manton] One way I think we could solve this in Micro.blog is to expand on our domain name usernames. For example, when Micro.blog receives a Webmention from yourblog.com, currently it creates a special “user” for that domain name, but there’s no way to sign in as that user. If there was a way to associate an email address or something, you could sign in with your domain name and skip most of the other parts of registration.
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[manton] Some kind of verification is nice to cut down on spammers. Although we still get people registering with obviously computer-generated email addresses.
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[manton] In related news, I noticed today that we didn’t have our “Discover” channel available via Microsub, so fixed that.
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jacky oh nice re: Discover feed
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jacky I'm guessing one could subscribe to that without being in Micro.blog?
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[manton] Yes, there’s at least a JSON Feed for it: https://micro.blog/posts/discover
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[manton] Maybe it’s time to pencil in some dates for that Microsub pop-up session.
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jacky and yeah, I think that one way to handle that is maybe looking for an e-mail in the h-card of the sender of that Webmention (but that's hoping for both authorship and e-mail info)
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jacky yeah indeed
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@bnijenhuis I wrote a note about adding clientside webmentions to your website: https://bnijenhuis.nl/notes/2021-05-03-implementing-clientside-webmentions/ Thanks to @mxbck and @swyx for paving the way :) (twitter.com/_/status/1389309649363644427)
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jacky is there a format in which one can expect transcriptions for audio files to be in?
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jacky hopes it's a format that's text so it can be simple to implement a parser on the client-side for it
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aaronpk there's the subtitle formats with timing info, webvtt and srt
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jacky ah yes, srt
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jacky need to look into this webvtt
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jacky oh webvtt looks like the _way_
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jacky oh yeah this is it
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jacky thanks
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jacky b/c then I can even parse it (someone must have done this) to render it inline
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aaronpk the <video> tag supports it directly too IIRC
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jacky yeah that'll be doubly handy for people
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jacky I figure that something like that would be ideal for linking - if you can link to the statement said at a timestamp then it'd be enough to reference it
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jacky something I've wanted and am drafting out for a potential idea
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[schmarty] I've done some experiments with this!
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jacky oh nice
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jacky I was just going to come back because my actual goal/itch/spark was being able to like a statement in a video or audio that I post on my site
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jacky thinks he might put the notes he has on the Wiki
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[schmarty] https://martymcgui.re/2017/10/17/native-html5-captions-and-titles-for-audio-content-with-webvtt/
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[schmarty] Basically: use <video> with an <source> that's actually an audio file so you can use <track> for the captions
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[schmarty] Chrome spectacularly effed this up for a while by putting the default player chrome right over the subtitle display but I thiiiink it's fixed?
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jacky oh one thing, this link to the audiogram thing is broken: https://bbcnewslabs.co.uk/projects/audiogram/
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jacky found that canonical link tho
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[schmarty] oh thanks! I feel like a lot of projects like that have gone stale
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jacky I can imagine
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jacky dang this doesn't seem to work on Firefox 89 :(
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jacky waves in anger
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[schmarty] Oh hmmmm
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