#dev 2021-05-11
2021-05-11 UTC
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[dianoetic_net] Yes I do
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# sparseMatrix haha all this discussion about http/https, and I decided I would take a break from dev and get a let's encrypt cert up for my domain
# sparseMatrix it didn't go well, I have completely hosed my lighttpd installation
# sparseMatrix I'm going to redo the machine anyway, it needs other work pretty badly. It wasn't really put together for this, so much as hijacked for it ;)
# sparseMatrix the next incarnation will be rocking nginx instead
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petermolnar sparseMatrix: if you're redoing it, take a look at https://caddyserver.com/
# petermolnar if I were to restart from scratch, I'd probably replace nginx with caddy these days
# petermolnar oh, that's disappointing
# petermolnar truth to be told, nginx + certbot worked fine even with my definitely overcomplicated nginx.conf
# petermolnar the part that certbot can give me a *.petermolnar.net because it can validate it using digitalocean's DNS api is wonderful
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# petermolnar butbutbut... containers! istio! APIs! Microservices!
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# [dianoetic_net] Needs more kafka
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# petermolnar you mean something like "a streaming solution for internet-scale webmentions support using microservices on a container based public cloud infrastructure backed by data warehouses" ?
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[KevinMarks] I mean, I have that, but that's because I wrote it on classic appengine
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vikanezrimaya good morning IndieWeb, long time no see
# vikanezrimaya i might've gone insane in these long months but i'm rewriting my website once again in Rust. And almost succeeding...
# vikanezrimaya Lack of an MF2 parser in Rust is the only thing that makes it hard, since I can't e.g. parse webmentions or provide rich reply contexts
# vikanezrimaya but it's not like my current website does it... sooooo
# vikanezrimaya who cares
# vikanezrimaya it's blazing fast tho, just 7ms of roundtrip to fetch the homepage on localhost
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jackyalcine vikanezrimaya: hey :)
# jackyalcine I'm actually rewriting parts of my site in Rust too!
# jackyalcine mainly things like indieauth and incoming webmentions - things that I'd want to have a very strict structure around. elixir's way better for things like microsub
# jackyalcine I have the beginnings of a indieweb crate here: https://lib.rs/crates/indieweb
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# [Tim_Culverhous] Hey! Don't mind me, just trying out the slack vs IRC
# jackyalcine lemme know if there's things you'd want to see in that crate and I'll try to get to it - I'm optimizing it right now to have some shared functionality in a few projects
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# vikanezrimaya jackyalcine: if you have an MF2 parser there that would be as HTTP-client-agnostic as possible, I'd totally add this crate to my Cargo.toml right away! I'm using surf as my HTTP client right now and I hope to possibly reuse connections by owning a handle to surf::Client instead of creating a new one for every single request (i'm afraid it might
# vikanezrimaya overhead too, and I need to keep the Micropub parts of my site blazing fast so I wouldn't feel a delay when posting! even though I'm currently sending webmentions from a background task)
# vikanezrimaya I have a start at https://gitlab.com/vikanezrimaya/mf2-parser, but it's really janky and can't handle a lot of things... actually it can't handle anything other than parsing a simple h-entry
# vikanezrimaya I'm a newbie Rustacean so please forgive me if my code looks like a bowl of noodles covered in hot sauce
# vikanezrimaya never used it
# vikanezrimaya i just... write code like i'm used to...
# vikanezrimaya only occasionally calling clippy to help me clean up
# [jacky] have you peeked at https://github.com/microformats/tests? you could make that into a subtree to the repo and use that for testing tbh
# vikanezrimaya I did! it's a bit intimidating for now but I'm planning on making a test suite out of it
# vikanezrimaya idea stolen from serde_json
# vikanezrimaya I consider the Mf2Data struct my magnum opus in Rust
# vikanezrimaya that's the biggest data structure I've ever made and I wish I could use it sooner in my code, it would help SO MUCH
# vikanezrimaya Statically-typed Microformats2 documents would be so easy to handle in frontend for templating
# vikanezrimaya I kinda hate JF2 but I understand that other people use it, so if you have any ideas or concepts, open an issue or a PR! I'm also considering disassembling one of the major MF2 parsers in other language to see how it works and possibly port it to Rust
# vikanezrimaya just need to find something compatible in terms of the licensing...
# vikanezrimaya Something I used in the past preferably, namely Python's mf2py or https://github.com/microformats/microformats-parser
# vikanezrimaya Both are written in memory-safe languages I'm somewhat familiar with
# vikanezrimaya looks like both are MIT-licensed which means if I'm gonna be going of these, my crate would also have to be MIT-only
# vikanezrimaya if I understand those licensing things correctly which I am probably not!!
# vikanezrimaya I fear only two things: unsafe code and licenses
# vikanezrimaya yeah
# vikanezrimaya it might but it'll make prototyping simpler
# vikanezrimaya could always rewrite performance-critical sections or whatever later
# vikanezrimaya Then probably keep an eye on that repo, it might start moving in the future when I run out of low-hanging fruit to implement in Kittybox-rs
# vikanezrimaya for now it's mostly onboarding (which I'm trying to code probably for the third time already!) and indexing posts for ?q=source, ?q=geo, ?q=food and ?q=contacts
# vikanezrimaya three rewrites of the website in a row and I've yet to do a single deploy
# vikanezrimaya at this point i'm coding for the sake of coding
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# [snarfed] vikanezrimaya feel free to use https://github.com/snarfed/granary/tree/master/granary/tests/testdata for mf2 test data too
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# vikanezrimaya is there a way to make, say, a fieldset <legend> only visible to screen-readers? it's in the way of my visual style but I'd like to leave it where it is for semantic purposes (since I use something like a progress-bar or breadcrumbs to track form progress and it's weird to have a section title be duplicated twice)
# vikanezrimaya Or maybe hide it with JavaScript so it won't be visible unless JS isn't working OR screenreader is enabled
# vikanezrimaya because when no JS is detected the progress bar is hidden and doesn't work at all (its driven by JS)
# vikanezrimaya position: absolute feels hacky
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# petermolnar hide it in normal css
# petermolnar add a css for screenreaders only, and show it
# petermolnar css @media has a speech option for "Used for screenreaders that "reads" the page out loud"
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# vikanezrimaya petermolnar: just what I wanted!
# vikanezrimaya except the no JS part isn't gonna be relevant anyway! The endpoint for which I'm building the form requires JSON and it'll be painful to use form-encoded for it... form-encoded is generally a pain for me
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# vikanezrimaya form-encoded doesn't represent nested structures well and there's gonna be a lot of them, including lists containing structs in my form
# vikanezrimaya and also the form will need buttons for adding more structs to the list
# vikanezrimaya basically I have something like Vec<
{ slug: String, name: String }> in my form for creating feeds (mapped to Micropub channels - see extension) when onboarding Kittybox# vikanezrimaya it'll allow me to pre-create custom feeds that will be then shown in ?q=channel
# vikanezrimaya and then my Micropub client (including the one that will ship with the software - for now it also serves as a debugging instrument) will read those and allow me to either auto-detect channels based on post type (h-entry, h-card etc.) or post to custom channels
# vikanezrimaya the last part is already implemented and working well
# vikanezrimaya i even remember writing some tests for it...
# vikanezrimaya wait, no, that was the autodetection part, but it should keep custom channels if they are defined without adding anything else
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# [jacky] I'm using `warp` for my Web server needs so I can define basically _all_ of my Micropub handling needs with these lines (from the Web router level): https://git.jacky.wtf/indieweb/koype-next/src/branch/develop/web-server/src/web.rs#L210-L228
# [jacky] I pack a _lot_ into concrete types to make it harder for random information to leak through (a big issue when I was doing it in Elixir and Python(!)) https://git.jacky.wtf/indieweb/koype-next/src/branch/develop/web-server/src/micropub/mod.rs#L87-L90
# [jacky] like I can even do the pagination stuff in here https://git.jacky.wtf/indieweb/koype-next/src/branch/develop/web-server/src/micropub/mod.rs#L121-L135
# [jacky] I think the most important thing is that I could use whichever Web server I want despite this being the business bits of it - if I can figure out how to extract some bits, I might even make the Micropub server logic into a library so anyone using Rust can just _get_ a Micropub server with a single import
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# vikanezrimaya [jacky]: I'm using Tide and async-std instead of warp and Tokio. Again, mostly because of my personal preferences
# vikanezrimaya I'm trying to make as much stuff as possible separated in functions, since they are easily unit-tested.
# vikanezrimaya For example, separating the normalize_mf2 function that makes MF2 posts have consistent properties, type-checks some of them (especially datetimes!) and inserts default properties when they aren't defined - namely, `uid`, `published`, `url`, `author` and `channel` - was the best decision in the entire development cycle
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# [girrodocus] I'm experimenting with a VPS for the first time (via digitalocean) and am wondering where to insert sorting out SSL certificates into this process: 1. Set up SSH keys. 2. Create the droplet (Ubuntu 20.04(LTS)x64). 3. Initial Ubuntu updates and set-up. 4. ufw firewall. 5. Install nginx
# [girrodocus] I know I need to do these at some point: A: delegate domain from namecheap to digitalocean (done). B: Set up A and AAAA records pointing example.com and www.example.com to the relevant IP addresses (done but not working yet). C: Do something that I don't understand yet with CAA records, LetsEncrypt and cerbot (the mysterious aspect).
# [girrodocus] I'll ultimately be running a tiddlywiki on node.js on a subdomain e.g. wiki.example.com
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# [girrodocus] I think I've accidentally registered for the LetsEncrypt thing about 4 times in the last couple days while I've tried to set up digitalocean droplets. I'm hoping this attempt will survive the getting-deleted-in-frustration test.
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# [dianoetic_net] girrodocus, if you want a self-signed cert with LetsEncrypt it should come down to running some shell commands. Have you seen this? https://letsencrypt.org/getting-started/
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# [dianoetic_net] Oopsie thank you!
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