#dev 2021-07-30

2021-07-30 UTC
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petermolnar parsing HTML with regex is fun though, because it's one of the simplest ways to summon a Lovecraftian Outer God
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Zegnat In the case of JSON-LD, it might be safe enough though. As you are not really looking to parse HTML per se. Just looking for a JSON blob delimited with <script> and </script> strings?
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petermolnar that is not that simple though in my opnion. One is supposed to add `type="application/ld+json"` with that `<script>` but what if the json block is inside ordinary javascript?
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petermolnar in theory one could get all <script(?:[^>]+)>(.*)</script>, but then what?
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Zegnat "if the json block is inside ordinary javascript" then it is not a JSON-LD island. So when you grab the script tags, you can run whatever is inbetween them through a JSON parser, and if that does not work, it was not a valid JSON-LD island.
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Zegnat Sure you could add the type attribute for the string match. I am just saying string matches might actually be completely fine if all you want is JSON-LD islands and are not at all interested in the fact that it happens to be HTML they are inside of :)
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petermolnar the world should have stuck to XML; that way we'd have a single data exchange format, and not multiple of them embedded in eachother.
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[tantek] petermolnar, at least they're not publishing data in CSS syntax 🙂
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capjamesg I am using extruct for json-ld parsing for a side project.
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capjamesg It's going well.
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capjamesg I had never heard of it up until now but it does quite a bit of structured data parsing.
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capjamesg extruct is not perfect but worth a look.
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Webmention is the way to do this if you don't connect it to twitter. (twitter.com/_/status/1421101410184306692)
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[tantek] KevinMarks, gotta check the year on those tweets before replying 😂
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aaronpk lol
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[tantek] I kinda wonder if that could also be part of an authoring UI, like providing a bit of reply-context heads-up (author, date of original) when you're composing a reply
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[tantek] or even a warning the way that Guardian articles provide warnings about how old an article is if it's more than a year old
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capjamesg tantek https://askubuntu.com/questions/928750/how-do-i-access-ios-camera-pictures-on-ubuntu
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capjamesg The "historical workaround" on the top answer on that Stack Overflow post is great for syncing photos from iPhone.
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capjamesg Seriously.
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capjamesg The best method I have seen.
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[tantek] what is iOS
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Loqi iOS is the operating system that runs on the Apple iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch https://indieweb.org/iOS
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capjamesg And that's all 9,000+ photos copied over to my desktop.
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capjamesg (desktop computer, not my actual desktop folder!)
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Loqi capjamesg has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (5 in all channels)
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[tantek] capjamesg++ awesome! could you write up a short "How to Export" section for how you did that on /iOS ?
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capjamesg tantek done!
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[tantek] 🎉
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[KevinMarks] you do slow web your way…
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Murray[d] I really like the idea of a warning about responding to something over a certain age; I know some forums used to show a warning if you responded to a thread over a preset age (it had a term to do with graves or tombstones that I cannot recall now...)
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sknebel Necroposting
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Murray[d] 👏 that definitely rings a bell
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[KevinMarks] the guardian changes it's article preview images to include the year and month if they're old
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[KevinMarks] eg https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/28/why-everyone-should-register-domain-name
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[aciccarello] That's smart considering how twitter sharing often loses all context
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[snarfed] experimenting with migrating bridgy and granary and friends from https://oauth-dropins.appspot.com/ to either https://github.com/authlib/loginpass or https://github.com/python-social-auth/ . oauth-dropins has had a good run, but never saw a ton of uptake, probably because it's webapp2 and Google Cloud Datastore specific, and owning that part myself doesn't really add any value
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@boxpiperapp ↩️ How to Use Webmentions with Gatsby.js – A Beginner’s Guide via https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-to-use-webmentions-with-gatsby-beginners-guide/ (twitter.com/_/status/1421237050863493125)
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