#dev 2021-10-01

2021-10-01 UTC
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[tantek] I really hate how much the "simple" act of displaying *static* charts & graphs on the web requires enabling some number of scripts per page. Why is this a thing? Are there no good server-side generated charts & graphs tools/frameworks?
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[tantek] Is this a technology problem? The lack of sufficient HTML+CSS primitives to do charts & graphs?
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GWG [tantek]: Server side generation by script is also an option
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Ruxton could be worse, we could still be presenting everyhting in RRDTool graphs ;P
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[tantek] idk what that is and i think i'm ok with that
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Ruxton oh pre-html/css/js graphing everyone used the same serverside tool inside perl script ;)
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[tantek] presumably these days you'd want to generate SVG charts & graphs so they "just work" to scale across devices, screen resolutions etc.
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] in the newsletter there is zero indication that it came from a bookmark on your site, so it looks like it is showing a bug on Tracy's site instead, which is unfortunate
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[tantek] what's the permalink of the post on your site?
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[chrisaldrich] This will give you both permalinks I think: https://news.indieweb.org/en
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[chrisaldrich] I think I've got mark up for the title within the reply context, IndieNews just doesn't pick it up. If I were to have put a comment on my bookmark, IndieNews would have shown that as a note along with what's currently there.
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[tantek] now I'm extra confused as your bookmark posts don't even have an errant blank p-name to confuse IndieNews
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[chrisaldrich] I can temporarily try to add a title to my two posts and resend the webmentions to hack a fix?? But we see this bug pop up every couple of weeks.
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Ruxton it looks like a news.indieweb issue, the h-entry only has one u-url and sets the author to tracy ?
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[chrisaldrich] Odd, it looks like even if I add an explicit title to my post it doesn't add it like it used to. I'd have to dig into changes I may have made since this used to work for me at some point. It'll take longer than I've got to be able to do tonight.
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[tantek] I guess what I don't understand is if it's grabbing the URL for Tracy's post, from the h-cite, why isn't it also grabbing the p-name from that too?
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[tantek] anyone want to have a look at the code? https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieNews
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Loqi [aaronpk] IndieNews: 📰 News aggregator for IndieWeb-related posts
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Ruxton tantek: the indienews display view doesn't carry the h-cite over, very simple h-entry
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Ruxton https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieNews/blob/master/views/_post-row.php <--
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[tantek] interesting, it's still somehow getting tracy for the author though
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[tantek] or at least her homepage URL
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[tantek] Ruxton, the code that calls that is somehow synthesizing "a post" into the $this->post->title
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieNews/blob/master/controllers/webmention.php#L234
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aaronpk indienews was way before i made XRay so it would be a lot simpler now that it uses xray
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@xrd Pretty excited about this: https://svekyll.com/Webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1443840765726060544)
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[KevinMarks]1 Server side code to generate svg graphs is very doable, I do this a lot. What language are you working in?
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[KevinMarks]1 I use nunjucks/jinja2 templates to generate graphs in svg the same way I generate tables in html.
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capjamesg[d] GWG tantek snarfed I saw this page in the weekly newsletter: https://indieweb.org/text/mf2%2Bhtml
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capjamesg[d] I'd love to see something come of this. I have been doing an overhaul of the recrawl logic for IndieWeb search and ran into a bit of an issue with how exactly I should go about identifying rel="alternate" h-feeds.
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capjamesg[d] With something like text/mf2+html I would have a lot more clarity on how I should go about parsing the content on a page.
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capjamesg[d] I suppose that technically I could parse the contents of the feed, see that it is HTML, and then decide to look for h-feeds, but a specific mime type would prevent me from having to make that assumption.
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generating Nebraska
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generating Nebraska
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@voxpelli ↩ī¸ Here's some additional steps you can do to get some more capabilities into it, like eg. Webmention support: https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started#IndieWeb_self-starters (Unfortunately my webmention endpoint is a bit at capacity right now, else I would offer you that one https://webmention.herokuapp.com/) (twitter.com/_/status/1443902494615261185)
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jamietanna aaronpk any chance we can get https://github.com/aaronpk/micropub.rocks/pull/87 merged? Also is it possible to get this moved to the IndieWeb organisation?
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aaronpk oh yeah we should probably merge that
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aaronpk s/merge/move
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Loqi [jamietanna] #87 New test case for multiple authentication methods being sent
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jamietanna Thanks!
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aaronpk should be deployed now
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GWG jamietanna, aaronpk, while I have both of you, can we settle something?
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GWG https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth/pull/94#discussion_r717000172
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GWG Authentication or no authentication, that is the question
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aaronpk i commented
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GWG Thank you
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GWG I'll rewrite the PR
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GWG I'm neutral... I just like the new structure
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