#dev 2021-10-31

2021-10-31 UTC
hendursaga, [tw2113_Slack_] and System[d] joined the channel
#
GWG aaronpk: If you get a chance, can you review https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth/pull/102 ? I can't rewrite the other PRs until that gets merged
#
Loqi [dshanske] #102 Introduce Server Metadata and Iss Parameter
#
aaronpk I will try, maybe Monday or Tuesday
#
GWG aaronpk: Thanks.
#
GWG Working on Microsub related stuff, but will hop back.
akevinhuang, [fluffy], kogepan, hendursa1, marksuth[d], sayanarijit[d], tetov-irc, hs0ucy and kimberlyhirsh[d] joined the channel
#
sknebel hm, a "ping search engines with updates" proposal: https://www.indexnow.org/documentation (via https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-now-supports-indexnow/)
#
capjamesg[d] Hm.
#
capjamesg[d] Did Technocrati not do something like that [KevinMarks]?
#
capjamesg[d] sknebel I wonder if IndieWeb Search could benefit from this.
#
capjamesg[d] I'll leave it for now and see what adoption looks like.
#
capjamesg[d] More generally, I wonder how this differs from a WebSub setup.
#
sknebel seems the main thing is that its not subscription-based, but site-owner picks which search engines to ping
#
capjamesg[d] Although IndexNow would probably be easier to implement. Or maybe not because there are public WebSub hubs.
#
capjamesg[d] Ah, I see. That is interesting.
#
sknebel and that pings can have many urls, and are not supposed to be fat pings with content
#
capjamesg[d] That is cool.
#
jeremycherfas I remember WP having something very like that back in the day, including pinging Technorati specifically.
#
GWG jeremycherfas: It still does... just no one uses it
#
GWG https://wordpress.org/support/article/update-services/
#
[KevinMarks] Look up pingomatic
#
GWG WebSub sort of replaced that
hs0ucy joined the channel
#
petermolnar ugh xmlrpc
#
GWG petermolnar: Yup
#
petermolnar and yes, this used to be a thing
[chrisbergr] joined the channel
#
Zegnat Is it just me or is indexnow.org using basically the same theme as schema.org?
#
Zegnat When I read it, I immediately had to think about doosboox’s https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/announcing-antenna.html - which also only updates on pings.
#
micahrl[m] Do any of ya'll have a blog-to-email system that works well for you? I am a bit incensed to discover that (at least in the US) you have to put a physical mailing list in emails you send out like this (something about the CAN-SPAM act).
#
micahrl[m] I prefer to funnel all my newsletters into my feed reader personally, but a friend asked if there was a way to get email updates the other day. Would be nice to support that first-class, i.e., without telling them to go sign up to a third party service that sends emails based on an RSS feed.
alex11, chee, kogepan and hendursaga joined the channel
#
capjamesg[d] [tantek] I am starting to build a better picture of feed usage in the index: https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog/stats
#
capjamesg[d] I know we discussed this weeks ago but I finally have more data 🙂
KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
petermolnar I've tried a lot of those (blog to email); eventually they all end up on spam, including google groups
#
petermolnar I'm astonished how google groups mails can land in spam in gmail
#
petermolnar re: CAN-SPAM it's plain ridiculous
#
[jeremycherfas] I certainly don’t.
#
petermolnar mailchimp add a phys address automatically to newsletters I send because of "international spam laws" international my *ss, it's a US law.
#
capjamesg[d] The only alternative I can think of is using a transactional email service but even that is not protected from being flagged as spam.
#
capjamesg[d] And then of course CAN-SPAM.
#
petermolnar anyway... if someone finds a reasonable way, please let me know
#
micahrl[m] Bah. Frustrating. I wonder if you could set up something with Amazon SES? Would be cool to be able to have more control over the output than one of those free things anyway.
tetov-irc and hs0ucy joined the channel