#dev 2021-12-20

2021-12-20 UTC
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binyamin[m] The wiki states that u-quotation-of posts must link to the source. Not all sources have a canonical URL, or even a URL in the first place. https://indieweb.org/quotation#How_to_markup
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aaronpk it's more that u-quotation-of is *for* posts that have a URL
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aaronpk if you're quoting something that doesn't have a URL, then you don't need to mark it up with something that indicates the URL of the thing
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binyamin[m] gotcha. So how would I indicate the post type?
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aaronpk does it need a post type? the point of post type discovery is for consumers of the data to be able to format the post properly when displayed elsewhere
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aaronpk think of it like displaying Quote Tweets on twitter. if someone tweets a quote from something that isn't also a tweet, there's nothing to display in the QT section on twitter
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binyamin[m] exactly. When displayed in a social reader, I want to differentiate between a note and this.
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aaronpk what is someone supposed to show in the reader if there's no link? if you really want to i guess you could make up your own link for it
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binyamin[m] No, it would show the content, and format it according to the post-type.
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aaronpk all the "u-*-of" properties are meant to point to a URL, so you'd have to make up your own URL for the post
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binyamin[m] Eg. with an icon, or with a generated title, or with the ability to filter out "notes" and still see this post.
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binyamin[m] Sorry, I should've said "quote post" instead of "u-quotation-of"
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binyamin[m] Are you trying to say that quote posts are just a type of response post?
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aaronpk i believe that was how the u-quotation-of was originally described
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aaronpk otherwise you've got things like <blockquote> and <cite> but i don't think that's been attempted to move into microformats aside from responses
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binyamin[m] Gotcha, thanks.
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[dmitshur] `Reviewed-By: Alice <https://alice.example/>`
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[dmitshur] Git commits sometimes include trailers like "Signed-Off-By:" or "Reviewed-By:" that identify people. They typically use a RFC 5322 address, e.g. `Reviewed-By: Alice <me@alice.example>`.
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[dmitshur] I'd prefer to identify people by their URL (as motivated at https://indieweb.org/Why_web_sign-in#Why_not_email), which I already have, but I'm thinking about how to write them down in a git footer. A straightforward way is to put their URL in place of the email:
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[dmitshur] I wonder if I should do that or something else. Has anyone seen any precedent for something like this?
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jamietanna [dmitshur] that's interesting. Not seen it before - would make sense to also look at amending the way that Git itself identifies the committer / author?
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[dmitshur] That is also interesting. I was going to leave git author/committer alone for now, but it's definitely related. I was curious to try and it didn't complain, so it seems like it'd work:
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[dmitshur] https://gist.github.com/dmitshur/ca83a02571e8e1da05447baf5a4a4fcb
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[dmitshur] "."; but all other benefits of URL over email still apply.)
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[dmitshur] Although including a full URL with scheme, mandatory non-empty path makes it more verbose than email, defeating the "moretyping" argument in https://indieweb.org/Why_web_sign-in#Why_not_personal_domain_email. So maybe URLs without scheme ("https://" is a reasonable implied default) and with optional path (empty means "/") is worth considering. (As an aside, at least in my case it's the same length, as the "@" gets replaced with
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capjamesg[d] offline << https://web.dev/offline-fallback-page/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://web.dev/offline-fallback-page/" to the "See Also" section of /offline https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=78477&oldid=68188
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petermolnar what is offline first?
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Loqi offline first is a method of developing a website that once a user has visited it once on their device, it will always provide at least some content (posts) and or features (like creating posts) when they revisit even when offline without internet access, using technologies like Service Workers and Local Storage https://indieweb.org/offline_first
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superkuh Disgusting.
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petermolnar ?
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superkuh Service Workers and Local Storage.
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petermolnar I tend to agree.
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