#dev 2022-04-09

2022-04-09 UTC
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jacky
I wish https://wordpress.com supported indieauth + micropub
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jacky
then I wouldn't have to write a reply on my site, copy the text and then link to it
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jacky
I'm sure there's a way to get those comments out via some sort of backfeed
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GWG-
jacky: Rest API?
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jacky
probably yeah
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jacky
actually yeah, if I signed in with my wordpress account at https://wordpress.com and visit another site hosted on there, I can technically do something like brid.gy for comments and likes
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jacky
I'm usually signed in so I don't think this is a big deal for me
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jacky
but I might play with it one of these days
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GWG-
jacky: Tell me if I can help
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[KevinMarks]1
Does silopub do wordpress.com?
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jacky
looks like stripe has /pay (like) pages as a service now? https://stripe.com/payments/payment-links
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[tantek]1
database-antipattern << Semi-humorous threadtree of various database criticisms: https://twitter.com/rbranson/status/1512444259143614466
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@rbranson
We're cancelling each other over database takes today. Post your cancellable database take.
(twitter.com/_/status/1512444259143614466)
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Loqi
ok, I added "Semi-humorous threadtree of various database criticisms: https://twitter.com/rbranson/status/1512444259143614466" to the "See Also" section of /database-antipattern https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80736&oldid=76950
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[KevinMarks]1
I definitely got blocked by people for posting a link to that
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[tantek]1
That threadtree has so many more criticisms for specific databases
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petermolnar
"threadtree" is what we used to call forums, right?
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lagash
"Back in my day.."
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eb
Today is CSS naked day https://css-naked-day.github.io/2022.html, I plan to write a wiki entry on it, and I hope to see other indiewebbers join in! It's great for accessibility
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@hagengraf
Neu im Blog: Cloudfest Hackathon 2022 Projekt "WordPress and the Indieweb" Ein verblogter Twitter-Thread und viel Spass https://hagen.cocoate.com/2022/04/09/cloudfest-hackathon-2022/ #cfhack #cfhack2022 #webmention #wordpress #indieweb #ionos #cloudfest #feedback
(twitter.com/_/status/1512834226655219715)
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Zegnat
I would have expected we had more references to CSS Naked Day. But there is just one little footnote with no examples ... https://indieweb.org/temporary_shutdown#CSS_Naked_Day
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eb
Zegnat: I have created the page and will add myself. I will link it from there!
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petermolnar
can we please make a banner for lynx, "with lynx, all day is CSS Naked Day"
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eb
Worth discussing if [[Textual Web Browsers]] is worth making
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jacky
they def are
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jacky
and I can easily participate in this lol
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jacky
this _actually_ is a nudge for me to work on 'festive' themes for my site, lol
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jacky
first should be for my birthday lol
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jacky
ah but javascript will be enabled still
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jacky
heh this is def making me realize how much stuff in HTML I need to lean into
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jacky
lol done
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jacky
had to look up https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mktime.php to figure out that date range it was looking for
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jacky
[snarfed]++ bridgy++
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Loqi
bridgy has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (13 in all channels)
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Loqi
[snarfed] has 31 karma in this channel over the last year (61 in all channels)
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[KevinMarks]1
this is why rel-tag has URLs in
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[tantek]1
[KevinMarks]++ for proving that blogging something can still make big companies change their behavior: https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/9/23018126/twitter-reverts-change-left-blank-spaces-websites-embedded-tweets
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Loqi
[KevinMarks] has 22 karma in this channel over the last year (47 in all channels)
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[tantek]1
boom
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[tantek]1
I feel like that deserves a timeline of sorts, starting from when embedded tweets were first introduced as a feature
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[KevinMarks]1
a lot of the timeline is in my post as I dug out Ben Ward's old tweets about it
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[tantek]1
indeed, you've done most of the research already
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[tantek]1
when I searched Google News for "CSS Naked Day", the only result was https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/01/31/website-operator-fined-for-using-google-fonts-the-cloudy-way/ (which ironically talks about tweet embedding as well)
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[tantek]1
TIL: "the cloudy way"
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eb1
Jacky, glad to have you on board! Would you mind me moving your sparkling to [[CSS Naked Day]]?
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jacky
I have no probelm with that!
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jacky
*problem
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eb1
Awesome 😎!
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Loqi
eb1 has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek]1
eb1++
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vika_nezrimaya
It looks like I am very much behind on the IndieAuth standard. Now we have an indieauth-metadata endpoint for discovery... and there's so much more easily-accessible info there!
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aaronpk
i still owe everyone a blog post update about the changes
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vika_nezrimaya
a blog post summarizing the changes would be very helpful, yes
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vika_nezrimaya
because I took one peek at the spec again and my brain exploded again
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vika_nezrimaya
I just wanted to rewrite half my software again, and now I will have to rewrite two thirds of it instead!
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vika_nezrimaya
exactly
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aaronpk
the changelog has a summary but doesn't exactly put the changes in context https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/#changes-from-26-november-2020-to-this-version
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vika_nezrimaya
Oh, thanks! I didn't notice the changelog at the bottom
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vika_nezrimaya
It looks like IndieAuth is now closer to be usable by non-IndieAuth-aware oAuth2 implementations with RFC8414 support and other advanced features expected of modern oauth2 such as refresh tokens
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vika_nezrimaya
I always used custom code for IndieAuth, but maybe I should consider taking a standards-compliant oauth2 library and try to fit it inside whatever I'm expecting to support IndieAuth
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aaronpk
yep! I was even able to configure my Okta account to use my own IndieAuth server as an external IdP, where Okta is effectively an IndieAuth client
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GWG-
aaronpk: I would love to read that blog post. Not trying to push you.
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vika_nezrimaya
aaronpk: 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
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vika_nezrimaya
This is amazing
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aaronpk
the new changes should make it so that using an existing OAuth 2 server library only needs a few changes to turn it into IndieAuth
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vika_nezrimaya
I hope the blog post will include at least a minimal example of that, because I only worked with IndieAuth and never with vanilla OAuth2
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jacky
I use a standards oauth2 library under the hood for https://lib.rs/crates/indieweb (I need to figure out how to reduce that dep tree)
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jacky
I'm hoping that'll make the act of upgrading easier!
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jacky
needs to add more examples and clean up that README page
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vika_nezrimaya
I think I should eventually throw out half of my `src/frontend/login.rs` and rewrite it using the `oauth2` crate
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jacky
agrees
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jacky
less testing you have to :)
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jacky
(ideally)
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jacky
I'm also tihnking about moving some of the link-rel parsing from that Rust indieweb crate into the mf2 one (or making it a standalone one, I'm very thrown on making multiple crates)