#dev 2022-07-27

2022-07-27 UTC
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[tantek]
jacky, did you have to wait much?
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[schmarty]
The name is based on the play but godot the game engine is quite small and snappy
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Loqi
godot has 1 karma over the last year
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[schmarty]
so in light of the owncast <=/=> indieauth.com disconnect i thought maybe it is time for me to stop mooching off aaronpk and stand up my own indieauth server. but i ... don't know what to stand up? /IndieAuth#IndieAuth_Providers is a mix of things built-into-other things, or out of date (selfault), ...
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[schmarty]
taproot/indieauth looks good but the docs seem to assume that "PSR-7" is all i need to know in order to slap together a PHP app. which... i almost do! but not quite.
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[schmarty]
Sele isn't listed on /IndieAuth but i like that jacky is actively working on it! however i have no clue how to host a rust thing.
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jacky
heh I have a private ticket to actually list it there once it's ready
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jacky
ideally it's a single binary you can tell to run at a port
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jacky
I have that slated for end of August
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[schmarty]
jacky++ i am very much in awe of your project management :}
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Loqi
jacky has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (65 in all channels)
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jacky
but if you're _super_ brave, doing a `docker build . -t sele:latest` from a cloned copy of https://git.jacky.wtf/indieweb/sele/src/branch/next/Dockerfile
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jacky
heh it's def all estimates (I only remember it b/c I was looking at it earlier today)
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[schmarty]
i get confused with docker stuff. will that end up with an instance of sele running atop a docker container?
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jacky
yup! all with the frontend and what not
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[schmarty]
hmm. _hmmmmmmmm_.
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jacky
I do want to play with using https://packagecloud.io/ one day so something like a PPA could be used (I kinda like that more b/c then you can let the system manage updates)
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[schmarty]
i am a big fan of PPAs to be sure! gonna cruise through the sele source. i feel like i am right on the edge of wanting something maybe too simple as i get started (single user support, probably just a password for auth)
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jacky
def lemme know if it's clunky - I think I've coded a lot of "me"-isms into it (and it doesn't have enough tests for me to feel _too_ comfortable for use) but I won't know until someone else tries :)
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[schmarty]
just a heads-up in case it helps. I cloned the sele repo @ branch `next` and ran the docker command above. hit `error Package "indieweb-common" refers to a non-existing file '"/indieweb-stack"'.` during `yarn install`. no need to actively debug, i am definitely out of my depth. 😅
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jacky
agh yeah that's because I'm doing something dirty there lol
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jacky
I have _another_ project that bundles some of the common things across the "suite" of projects that I either need to package and not explicitly do ^
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[schmarty]
haha, all good. makes me feel better that i guessed it was something like that lol
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[schmarty]
ooh i don't see this one on the wiki but i think i remember it being announced in some indieweb chat channel https://github.com/hugopeixoto/iars
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Loqi
[hugopeixoto] iars: IndieAuth provider
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[schmarty]
a very singular workflow with the ntfy.sh notification and setup but i like the clear setup instructions lol
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[Jamie_Tanna]
I'm looking at whether I can extend something like https://www.ory.sh/ with IndieAuth support which should be straightforward as IndieAuth is very aligned to OAuth2
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@bonjouryannick
Instagram with RSS feeds and webmentions instead of the centralized one.
(twitter.com/_/status/1552190084434239489)
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[snarfed]
morning all! re-raising this:
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Loqi
[[snarfed]] Hi all! I have a security question. To use the Bridgy browser extension for Instagram and Facebook backfeed, you currently have to IndieAuth your site, log into your FB/IG account, and have your FB/IG profile link to your site.
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[snarfed]
(Loqi?)
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[snarfed]
(and the follow-ups)
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[snarfed]
I'm planning to do this soon, just wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts before I do
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@DeEgge
I’m writing this post in the hopes it will be published on Twitter and Mastodon via http://brid.gy #indieweb (https://chringel.dev/2022/07/27/1420/)
(twitter.com/_/status/1552309739740172292)
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[tantek]
hmm I'm already stuck on /Sunlit app launch: "Enter your Micro.blog email address." — I literally don't remember which address I used, and wasn't expecting that as part of activation/sign-up flow.
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[schmarty]
swinging back around to my complaints yesterday i have made some progress putting taproot/indieauth into a very stripped down PHP web app wrapper. i think i have tested everything i can locally before needing to... actually stick it up on a server and try to use it.
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[schmarty]
i'll publish my little wrapper and docs for it once i have it working
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[tantek]
speaking of IndieAuth yes that
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[tantek]
this leads me to my first issue I need to now file on Sunlit: support login with IndieAuth
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@fluffy
↩️ If anyone wants to join in on the brainstorming (and please do!), the indieweb wiki is open to all. Logging in requires having an IndieAuth-enabled identity, which can be as simple as adding a couple of lines of HTML to a webpage you control.
(twitter.com/_/status/1552344721137184769)
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[manton]
[tantek] Yeah, this is something I’d like to improve… We support publishing to any Micropub server, but it requires Micro.blog to get started, so you’ve gotta get signed in first.
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[tantek]
That makes sense, I'm wondering about IndieAuth (even via my own website) as a method of identifying your micro.blog username/identity rather than email
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[manton]
Ideally you could sign in with IndieAuth and it would use Microsub if there’s no Micro.blog account.
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[tantek]
right, and if it detects that I do have a micro.blog (e.g. tantek.com has a rel=me link to my micro.blog/t) then it can use that!
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[tantek]
at least to start with, it seems like it would make a convenient (for IndieWeb folks) sign-in flow to do:
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[tantek]
IndieAuth -> personal domain -> rel=me to micro.blog profile to discover "which micro.blog user are you"
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[tantek]
rather than
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[tantek]
email -> micro.blog
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[manton]
That makes sense. I’m hoping to work more on Sunlit, especially with what’s happening with Instagram.
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[tantek]
That's exactly how this conversation started. Instagram's descent into morphing into a bad version of TikTok/Vine seems like it is creating a vacuum for a much better photos-centric app to fill
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[manton]
Yeah, I caught some of that discussion… I hope that Sunlit can be a good alternative. Glass (https://glass.photo) is also very nice, but I expect it to stay more of a silo.
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sknebel
does hubs have any linking/federation/...? I seem to remember reading about that, but not sure exactly where...
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