#dev 2022-09-21
2022-09-21 UTC
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[schmarty] barnaby++ woo, thanks! migrated. i'll see if any tokens broke for 0.1.0 tomorrow when i post caturday.
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[schmarty] had to polyfill `str_contains` because I have PHP7.4 on the box where I run all this 😅
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[schmarty] that clears up my main concern w/ updating taproot\indieauth to 0.2.0, which is exciting. i can also undo my `client_id` wrapping now that unfetchable `client_id` is no longer fatal.
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@Naln1theVampire Does anyone/thing use IndieAuth? Is it worth hosting my own IndieAuth provider? (twitter.com/_/status/1572466927515365378)
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[schmarty] Ehehe an unexpected upside to my foot dragging
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barnaby if I had written tests which actually ran the script rather than just testing the migration function, it would have been picked up in the CI, but that seemed like too much effort for a tiny script. Perhaps I should get that codesniffer we use for php-mf2 working to check stuff like that statically
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[tantek]4 Pretty sure CASSIS still only depends on PHP5+ functions
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> Regarding h-entry/h-feed microformat. Has it been considered to assume the u-url to be the link rel="cannonical" if it is missing?
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> I am capable of generating my own u-url but for some pages I will like to not show it (not even as a hidden link because a anchors with href aren't supposed to be hidden.
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> And with all my pages having a cannonical I was wondering if the u-url could be assumed to be the cannonical if present.
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> If there is no u-url and no cannonical I guess we could fail the validation
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> Regarding h-entry/h-feed microformat. Has it been considered to assume the u-url to be the link rel="cannonical" if it is missing?
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> I am capable of generating my own u-url but for some pages I will like to not show it (not even as a hidden link because a tags with href aren't supposed to be hidden)
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> And with all my pages having a cannonical I was wondering if the u-url could be assumed to be the cannonical if present.
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> If there is no u-url and no cannonical I guess we could fail the validation
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> (not even as a hidden link because a tags with href aren't supposed to be hidden)*
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[snarfed]1 also we can easily think of examples where the u-url isn't actually canonical
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[snarfed]1 eg all Mastodon POSSEd posts
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> ah ok, I am not into POSSE that much but I see how taking that into consideration makes u-ul a requirement. Ok thanks!
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IWDiscordGateway <corlaez> and multiple h-entrys make sense too. I mean if I was publishing them together it may be my responsibility but if someone else is aggregating them the lack of u-url is problematic.
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[tantek]4 not sure if this is worth adding to our /privacy page but perhaps for consideration (interesting chart for those that run websites that may retain information from others, e.g. caching data from webmentions) https://twitter.com/jtrevorhughes/status/1571952116733825025
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@jtrevorhughes Hey #privacy folk: PRINT THIS CHART. The uncertainty around the #ADPPA means that many -- MANY -- state privacy laws will likely come into force. We have a busy year ahead. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdCyFNmXkAAE51I.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1571952116733825025)
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[schmarty] chart (with links) comes from here: https://iapp.org/resources/article/key-dates-from-us-comprehensive-state-privacy-laws/
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[schmarty] twitterlinks--
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[schmarty] barnaby: seems like the migration script worked fine btw. i've just updated to 0.2.0 and i'll let you know if anything blows up when i next post (which is: whenever)
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[schmarty] one thing that is still a bit of a struggle is Owncast's indieauth client integration which provides a path-less URL and taproot still rejects this. give it a shot if you have a test site set up. it's authentication-only: https://watch.owncast.online/
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barnaby re the owncast thing, I’m still waiting on clarification for how to handle the normalizations https://github.com/Taproot/indieauth/issues/12
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[schmarty] thanks barnaby. i left my unsolicited 0.02¢ in the PR. i believe it's important to always be consistent but don't particularly think there's a risk from storing/comparing the normalized version only.
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[schmarty] that said, i also think it's fine to only compare and store the non-normalized version and treat it as an opaque string until it is to be "used" either to validate it or fetch it and only normalize it at those times.
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