#dev 2022-10-07

2022-10-07 UTC
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[KevinMarks]1 Another way to preview a link https://www.kevinmarks.com/mentionquote.html
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Loqi Mentions as quotes 2015-05-22
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[tantek]4 [KevinMarks] note that link has been in the source comments of auto_url_summary for quite some time 🙂 https://github.com/tantek/cassis/blob/master/cassis-lab.php#L125 so yes, I agree, that's a good way to extend the functionality of auto_url_summary
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[KevinMarks]1 There's probably a case for supporting the chrome syntax too
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[tantek]4 nah, just like I don't need to support all new gTLDs 😛
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[tantek]4 CASSIS is a bit opinionated 😉
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[tantek]4 angelo, to further answer your question, auto_url_summary generates text that can be appended to "↳ In reply to "
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[tantek]4 I should document that
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Loqi I agree
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gRegor Loqi should document that
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[tantek]4 I agree
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@ljquintanilla https://www.luisquintanilla.me/feed/almost-ready-to-receive-webmentions?utm_medium=feed (twitter.com/_/status/1578225186020671489)
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[tantek]4 !tell angelo, how's this for minimal context documentation of what auto_url_summary returns? https://github.com/tantek/cassis/blob/master/cassis-lab.php#L55 is that enough to be clear or any further questions/clarifications?
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[tantek]4 !tell angelo how is this for minimal context documentation of what auto_url_summary returns? https://github.com/tantek/cassis/blob/master/cassis-lab.php#L55 is that enough to be clear or any further questions/clarifications?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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capjamesg [tantek] What are your thoughts on using https://indieweb.org/CC0 for libraries?
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capjamesg angelo raised this idea yesterday. I chose MIT for indieweb-utils as I wanted a permissive license, but at the time I hadn't considered CC0.
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[Jamie_Tanna] Capjamesg beware its not OSI approved so not officially Open Source, which may lead to some folks not wanting to contribute / being more cautious
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[Jamie_Tanna] Also if you do end up relicensing, you need explicit permission of all the copyright holders (ie everyone who's contributed) to relicense it!
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[tantek]4 how is CC0 not OSI approved? it's basically an international version of "public domain"
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[tantek]4 jamietanna, that latter statement I believe is untrue. CC0 contributions are not undoable
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[tantek]4 I'm a fan of using CC0 if you are really ok with anyone cut & pasting for any reason without any credit.
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sknebel https://opensource.org/faq#cc-zero
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[Jamie_Tanna] See also https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_FAQ#May_I_apply_CC0_to_computer_software.3F_If_so.2C_is_there_a_recommended_implementation.3F
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[Jamie_Tanna] Hmm interesting, so can't even relicense as its now CC0 forever?
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[tantek]4 I hadn't seen the 2012 discussions sknebel. That's interesting and too bad.
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[tantek]4 TIL https://unlicense.org/
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sknebel 0BSD is one that has gotten OSI-approval: https://opensource.org/licenses/0BSD
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sknebel that said I'm not sure how many people really have a problem with cc0
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[tantek]4 it sounds like it wasn't that CC0 was rejected but rather than no conclusion was reached, no consensus
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[tantek]4 sknebel++ for suggesting 0BSD. nice and short
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Loqi sknebel has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (30 in all channels)
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[snarfed] fwiw all of my open source projects are public domain/CC0
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sknebel wow: https://twitter.com/jh3yy/status/1578158670562865152
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@jh3yy CSS Tip! ✨ You could use :has() combined with sibling combinators and other things to build a working 3D CSS Connect 4 🤓 .col:has([row=p-1]:checked) + ... .col:has([row=p-1]:checked) ~ .result { --win: 1; --winner: var(--p); } Demo link below! 👇 https://twitter.com/jh3yy/status/1578158670562865152/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/1578158670562865152)
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[tantek]4 Yeah :has has A LOT of power
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angelo_ capjamesg the original slidedeck about exploiting URL parsers (2017): https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-17/thursday/us-17-Tsai-A-New-Era-Of-SSRF-Exploiting-URL-Parser-In-Trending-Programming-Languages.pdf
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Loqi angelo_: [tantek]4 left you a message 14 hours, 20 minutes ago: how is this for minimal context documentation of what auto_url_summary returns? https://github.com/tantek/cassis/blob/master/cassis-lab.php#L55 is that enough to be clear or any further questions/clarifications?
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angelo_ and a recentish reexamination (2022): https://claroty.com/team82/research/exploiting-url-parsing-confusion
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angelo_ search for `urllib` here: https://claroty.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Exploiting-URL-Parsing-Confusion.pdf
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capjamesg Thank you!
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angelo_ tantek yes those clarifications helped give me the context i needed. capjamesg here's what i've had for reply contexts in indieweb.rocks: https://ragt.ag/code/indieweb.rocks/files/indieweb_rocks/templates/site.html#L323 which is a richer rendering than provided in the summary templates we discussed yesterday.. i do not want to have to maintain the list of regexes myself. i do not want to have
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angelo_ to search them. i DO want to be able to write my own summaries. that's the ergonomics i need and `custom_templates` isn't adequate.
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angelo_ i'd like to collaborate on a JSON list of URL mappings and have a simple python search function, both CC0
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angelo_ here's a list i started manually keeping that accounts for probably 90% of the rel=me's in the wild
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angelo_ https://ragt.ag/code/indieweb.rocks/files/indieweb_rocks/utils.py
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Loqi Angelo Gladding
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angelo_ in the *IndieWeb* wild
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angelo_ snarfed does bridgy have any lists like this?
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capjamesg angelo_ what is the purpose of that rel=me dict?
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angelo_ a) generate a textual summary of a silo's profile page and b) return the username
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capjamesg Ah, I see!
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capjamesg This is useful!
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angelo capjamesg the four Trues at the top of that dict denote silos that support the reciprocal rel=me
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capjamesg Ah sourcehut supports it! Nice!
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angelo i plan to make a similar list of silo /post/ permalink templates when i start crawling posts.
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angelo i just exposed it at https://indieweb.rocks/silos/url_templates.json
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angelo or are these url_patterns?
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capjamesg If you'd be willing this would be a great list to maintain in IndieWeb utils for broader use.
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capjamesg With an accompanying function in similar style to the one we defined yesterday.
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capjamesg I'd say they are more patterns.
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capjamesg But it's semantics.
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angelo they're url_summaries
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capjamesg +1
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capjamesg Is there any reason the regex is in a list?
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capjamesg Will there be scenarios where there is more than one pattern?
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angelo see foursquare
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capjamesg Oh I see.
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capjamesg Got it!
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angelo yes i think this map should be available in library form but it only makes sense to attach it to code licensed cc0 (or equivalent)
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capjamesg We discussed this a bit in the scrollback today.
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angelo i saw. having data files tied to the project complicates things further
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