#dev 2022-12-19

2022-12-19 UTC
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@Mappletons It’s a glorious time for a holiday project: figuring out how to publish a stream of twoot-sized updates to my own site, then using https://brid.gy to syndicate elsewhere Unsure of all the details but starting with these: https://mxb.dev/blog/syndicating-content-to-twitter-with-netlify-functions/ https://brid.gy/about#publishing:~:text=Publishing-,What%20do%20you%20mean%2C%20publishing%3F,-People%20often%20post (twitter.com/_/status/1604628495933415424)
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[tantek] ^ sounds like a 2023-commitment!
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@thejuanlam ↩️ I just added "notes" to my site! I use http://webmention.app to send out mentions in my feed. To every "note", is attached a bridgy syndication mention that then syndicates to my other accounts! https://brid.gy/about#webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1604630040947589120)
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@thejuanlam ↩️ I just added "notes" to my site! I use http://webmention.app to send out mentions in my feed. To every "note", is attached a bridgy syndication mention that then syndicates to my other accounts! https://brid.gy/about#webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1604630040947589120)
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[tantek] ^ there you go, hey folks, who else here is going to make a /2023-01-01-commitment to add notes to their personal site? [KevinMarks]
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[KevinMarks] Maybe, but I'm seeing my sons 20th to 28th, so that leaves 3 days
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GWG [tantek]: What sort of notes?
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[tantek] GWG, /note posts
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[tantek] you know, instead of posting them as primary content on Twitter
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GWG I have those.
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GWG So I wouldn't fit the bill.
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[tantek] GWG, right, hence I didn't tag you 🙂
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[tantek] But we have a few old-timers here who still haven't started posting notes to their personal sites yet
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GWG I'm close to finishing my syndication upgrade though. Then I'll likely move on to a redo of another of my things.
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GWG I'm in a make fixes cycle.
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[KevinMarks] https://macwright.com/2022/12/09/activitypub.html
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angelo i've got multiple command line apps that want my site/endpoint URL and a token. i've got device flow for automating token generation but i'd like to kick off the process without having to ask for site URL. .dotfile or ENVVAR?
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Loqi angelo: barnaby left you a message 2 days, 6 hours ago: agreed with [jacky], very nice wiki page, but jfyi I’m getting an HSTS expired cert error in firefox when trying to view https://lahacker.net/
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Loqi angelo: [jacky] left you a message 2 days, 6 hours ago: this layout of your page is _nice_ https://indieweb.org/Canopy#short-hashes
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cambridgeport90[ I must have missed the big update from earlier in the week,though I keep hearing about administrators asking if anybody knows what to do when they start getting requests from law enforcement and what not.
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> Angelo: I opt for environment files, easiest to stick into a little one off script or task without fiddling with the filesystem (depending on complexity)
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angelo jacky environment files? what do you mean by that? :) i've got CLI args (eg. --endpoint=...) but if i want to set and forget i'm thinking ~/.website or WEBSITE=
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> Environment variables! Sorry, mobile makes me trust auto completion too much
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[KevinMarks] alex is building a share button too https://github.com/slightlyoff/share-button
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Loqi [preview] [slightlyoff] share-button: A web component for sharing on infrequently.org
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] that looks like a minimal wrapper around a mini-share NASCAR widget, not anything actually interesting like a cross-site share button AKA webaction
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[tantek] "The important `::part()`s are: / `share-button` / `tweet-button` / `toot-button` / `copy-link-button` "
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cambridgeport90[ definitely... and if a photo, share to Pixelfed instead of share to Instagram,considering Instagram sort of killed their API.
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[tantek] so that's not really useful. I mean whether you put those buttons directly in the HTML (e.g. via server-side template) or client-side web component, it makes no difference to the user experience
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[tantek] except the latter requires JS 😛 so [KevinMarks] his "share-button" is actually a regression in that regard. regressive enhancement
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@ljquintanilla https://www.luisquintanilla.me/feed/now-accepting-webmentions?utm_medium=feed (twitter.com/_/status/1604705606098722817)
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lqdev[m] Hi folks,
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lqdev[m] Seems Loqi got ahead of me sharing that link. Anyway, I thought you all might find that interesting. Feedback and webmentions appreciated.
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lqdev[m] Long time listener, first time caller.
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[chrisaldrich] Welcome lqdev
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[chrisaldrich] Congrats on webmentions
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lqdev[m] Thanks! Took me a while mainly because everything was built from scratch but also because of some design decisions I look forward to sharing in a post later this week :)
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@schnarfed ↩️ Fun post, thanks for writing it up! You may also be interested in https://fed.brid.gy/ (twitter.com/_/status/1604720945817493504)
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@AdamBrodziak ↩️ Nice idea for the times here. Hey @obryant666 have you though about integrating Webmention open standard? Would be nice to have unbundled discussion actually. Webmentions can be done client side too as @swyx figured out: https://www.swyx.io/clientside-webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1604805708058624000)
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[jacky] that share button works kinda nicely
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[jacky] sure, client-side but def works and would work on mobile
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AramZ-S[m] I saw that some microformats got added to the 11ty twitter archive tool. Curious if anyone here has reviewed the changes and has more to suggest
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AramZ-S[m] Still not finished, but got a test version of my Twitter archive built on the tool here - https://tweets.aramzs.com and adding a bunch of stuff, so looking for more candidates to add for an eventual PR to the original project.
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AramZ-S[m] Got search working there, which is a signficiant improvement over the original.
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AramZ-S[m] It involves an 11mb JSON file, but... this is intentially lo-fi and I didn't see a better way to do it with a static site
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AramZ-S[m] (would be very much open to suggestions there too)
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Anyone know any good cloud providers with GPU-dedicated compute?
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[snarfed]2 ↩️ all big three, hetzner, vultr, linode, lambda, nvidia
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aaronpk so when i look at my profile on someone else's instance, it doesn't show that my website is verified. I do have the rel=me links set up, but how do I convince another server that my website is verified? https://indieweb.social/@aaronpk@aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk (link only works if you're logged in to indieweb.social)
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[snarfed]2 I suspect that's a Mastodon-specific thing that you may not be able to inject/reproduce with pure AP
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aaronpk oh wait, i don't have rel=me in the activitypub json response...
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aaronpk i have it on the HTML version of both pages, but maybe it has to be in the JSON profile too
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[manton] I’ve been meaning to figure this out too.
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aaronpk hm i dont think that helped
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aaronpk i did send out an Update too
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[manton] I think Mastodon checks those links in the background, so not sure how long it would take to notice the change.
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aaronpk hm ok i'll check again later
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capjamesg I have a Python program that works locally but not on my server.
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capjamesg I've reinstalled dependencies. What else should I be thinking about?
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barnaby have you checked that the same python is being used in both cases?
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barnaby i.e. same version number, but also potentially same build (e.g. cPython vs pypy vs ironpython or whatever)
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barnaby what kind of error are you getting?
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> It's a library error.
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Let me retrieve it.
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> `TypeError: search() missing 3 required positional arguments: 'k', 'distances', and 'labels`
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> This is being returned from a library.
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barnaby huh okay yeah that sounds like it’s buried deep in a library somewhere
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> The exact same function call works just fine on my local machine.
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barnaby but following the traceback back to your own code might provide some hints
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Let's see...
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barnaby you could also do a pip freeze in both environments to directly compare versions
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> I seem to be using python3.8 on my server venv.
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> I'm using .9 locally.
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barnaby definitely worth seeing if using the exact same version fixes it then
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> That didn't solve the problem.
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[snarfed]2 capjamesg can you post the full stack trace?
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barnaby comparing the exact version numbers of the installed dependencies would be my next step then
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[snarfed]2 also barnaby's pip freeze idea is right. it's almost certainly a dependency version mismatch somewhere, that will find it
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> `snarfed` will do.
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> [snarfed] https://gist.github.com/capjamesg/4c44a35189dff2affcfef0a62b915753
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capjamesg I have never seen this before.
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capjamesg Ah, it appears to be a conda issue.
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capjamesg This is a mess :D
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capjamesg It's still not working.
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[KevinMarks] Are your local dependencies fully ina venv or is it using some other library paths?
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capjamesg It's a mess. They are everywhere.
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capjamesg This was a weekend hack so I didn't do things like a venv until after a little bit.
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capjamesg And I had to use conda because faiss needs it.
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[snarfed]2 is local on pip? or conda?
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[snarfed]2 oh. both?
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[snarfed]2 looks like there's at least an unofficial pip package: https://pypi.org/project/faiss/
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capjamesg Ah, eek.
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capjamesg I think I know the issue. One moment.
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capjamesg Nope.
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capjamesg It could be a pickle issue.
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capjamesg It was a pickle issue.
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capjamesg rejoices and also wonders where the last 2 hours went
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capjamesg TIL pickles don't open on every computer.
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[snarfed]2 pickles are the worst
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[snarfed]2 among other problems, they can embed hard-coded paths to source files and depend on those during unpickling
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capjamesg Therein may have lay my issue.
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capjamesg In related news I may, if I don't run into any infra scaling issues, be rebuilding IndieWeb search soon.
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capjamesg But that's a big if. [snarfed] I tried to ingest your blog from IndieWeb Search into my mock v2 and I could only get to 1k pages before running into issues.
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capjamesg Running a memory-intensive process + Elasticsearch at the same time = a big no no.
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