#dev 2023-04-08

2023-04-08 UTC
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aaronpk
well i was able to move my twitter app into the new v2 project so maybe i won't lose my POSSE access?
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aaronpk
but i won't be able to expand reply contexts anymore since that's not part of the free tier
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[tantek]
how is Loqi getting tweet content for inclusion in chat and adding to pages with < < ?
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aaronpk
still works for now
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aaronpk
will stop working on apr 29 if not disabled sooner
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aaronpk
oops i might have broken silopub after all
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[snarfed]
aaronpk yeah those endpoints in the free Twitter API tier were in the earlier announcement
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[snarfed]
Interesting, did silo.pub break because v2 project apps don't support 1.1?
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aaronpk
v2 project apps do support 1.1, but I tried to switch the credentials silo.pub is using and then doing the oauth flow was failing
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aaronpk
i tried switching it back, and the oauth flow is still failing
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aaronpk
attempts to post
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aaronpk
ok it still works, must have held on to the old tokens
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aaronpk
i'm just not going to touch anything until someone else breaks it
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[snarfed]
soon enough
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capjamesg
That is an interesting piece.
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[KevinMarks]
The weird part here is that the author kept saying lat, long and GPT ignored that and used long, lat which matched the data.
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[KevinMarks]
Seems like pure luck that they didn't get all the points plotted in Antarctica
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capjamesg
[snarfed] Did the bsky API change?
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capjamesg
*auth api
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[snarfed]
Yup it did
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capjamesg
How does one auth now?
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aaronpk
oops that's why my POSSE stopped working
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capjamesg
wtf with these changes!
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aaronpk
it's still in closed beta so this is the time
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aaronpk
i don't know why this particular change is better than the old method but i'm sure someone had a reason
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capjamesg
The create post has also changed.
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capjamesg
"repo" is now the key instead of "did".
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IWDiscordRelay
<c​apjamesg#4492>
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IWDiscordRelay
<c​apjamesg#4492> I’m almost done with what I wanted to build!
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IWDiscordRelay
<c​apjamesg#4492>
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[snarfed]
follow pfrazee and whyrusleeping and other bluesky team members, join the matrix chat, they were talking about it a bit beforehand
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capjamesg
Do they have an IRC / Discord?
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[snarfed]
^ matrix chat. I'm in it, I've been trying to find the address or whatever to post here, but I literally can't find it
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[manton]
I still think it’s time for Bluesky to ship to everyone. Or at least have a public roadmap so we know what to expect and when.
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[snarfed]
I'm glad they're going slow. the product is the protocol as much as - probably more than - the social app, and it's hard to change a protocol once there's a lot of usage, so this is the time to try hard to get that right
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[manton]
That’s true, but if it takes too long, it won’t matter how good the protocol is because everyone will have moved on. Finding the right balance is hard.
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[snarfed]
maybe. but we've seen that nothing lasts forever, and there's no single point in time for early mover advantage. MySpace => FB => IG => TikTok, etc
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[manton]
That’s fair.
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[manton]
I think the most compelling thing about Bluesky right now is their approach to identity. I hope that that can influence the direction of ActivityPub.
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[manton]
Secondary is having a more open client/server API, compared to Mastodon’s API.
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capjamesg
I like BlueSky so far.
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capjamesg
I don't use it very much, though. Network effects, etc.
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[snarfed]
yeah, first class support for both migration (data ownership) and "big world" indexing are key differentiators
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capjamesg
"big world" indxeing?
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capjamesg
*indexing
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[snarfed]
just actual defined support for centralized data processing of any form, as opposed to nothing in AP and hostility culturally
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capjamesg
In theory can I use the Bluesky client with my own server?
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capjamesg
Then apply algorithmic ranking to what it returns for my timeline?
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capjamesg
(i.e. filter out all Blueskys(?!) that contain the word "crypto")
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capjamesg
That would be interesting.
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[snarfed]
They're specifically planning for pluggable ranking algorithms
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capjamesg
Worth doing anything rn or best to wait?
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capjamesg
> We’re developing a feed selection system that enables users to explore third-party feeds and access them as effortlessly as their home timeline.
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[snarfed]
"rn," maybe not, it's extremely early
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[snarfed]
At least for the "your own server" part. federation is still in progress, hasn't stabilized yet, no docs
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@siygle
一個轉眼 Bridgy https://brid.gy/ 已經拔掉 twitter 的支援了(因為 Twitter API 方案改變的關係),所以 Webmention 就跟著...0rz 才剛整好就看到這個消息… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644638454410809344
(twitter.com/_/status/1644638454410809344)
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@siygle
一個轉眼 Bridgy https://brid.gy/ 已經拔掉 twitter 的支援了(因為 Twitter API 方案改變的關係),所以 Webmention 就跟著...0rz 才剛整好就看到這個消息… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644638454410809344
(twitter.com/_/status/1644638454410809344)