#dev 2023-06-22

2023-06-22 UTC
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[aciccarello] For easy static sites, I think Glitch has a good free tier now. It'd be easy to have a starter someone could fork. I haven't tried it thought.
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[tantek] Jacky, indeed hashtags as a UI shortcut even something as "simple" as # public
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vladimyr [tantek]'s question on [timothy_chambe]'s research about how are scraped fedi accounts from Twitter bios classified prompted me to do a little curl experiment: https://ttm.sh/BcS.sh
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vladimyr That's how you can determine which software is powering given fedi account
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vladimyr First you need to webfinger given account, then you need to find domain hosting actor's activity stream
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vladimyr Then you need to locate nodeinfo for given domain using well-known uri
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vladimyr And finally extract software name from nodeinfo json
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vladimyr In this case it simply returns bridgy-fed
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vladimyr Fixed sed incantation https://ttm.sh/BcW.sh 🙃
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vladimyr Might be interesting to build an API that would provide this info 💡
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[tantek] what is pin13
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Loqi pin13 is a collection of tools that aid in IndieWeb-friendly web development, including microformats parsing, character counting, JSON prettifying, and number converting https://indieweb.org/pin13
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[tantek] ^ vladimyr, could also setup a small site like that to enter a URL and provide such info
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c​apjamesg From where does the name pin13 come?
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[schmarty] capjamesg: Arduino development boards (aimed at making embedded programming easier) come with an LED installed on pin number 13. making the LED on pin13 blink is usually the "hello world" Arduino project.
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gRegor Neat, didn't know that
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[tantek] same. favicon needs a blinking LED
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aaronpk ha good idea
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c​apjamesg Interesting!
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vladimyr [tantek]: are you suggesting that I create suite of (fedi related) webtools like aaronpk did? :)
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vladimyr But then I need to come up with equally cool domain 🙃
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[timothy_chambe] Sparked by discussions here: A mastodon compatible group for working on a robust test suite for ActivityPub: https://twitter.com/tchambers/status/1671547617895907337
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vladimyr Which is way harder than convert that curl snippet into lambda
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vladimyr [timothy_chambe]: did you paste wrong link?
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[tantek] vladimyr, I'm sure some folks here would be more than happy to help you come up with a cool domain. cc: capjamesg 😄
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vladimyr I really like capjamesg's 's domains!
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[snarfed] https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2023/06/21/CSS-plus
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[schmarty] vladimyr: i have a cautionary tale for domains where the end result is i have a bunch of IndieWeb services at bayside.pub all named after characters from Saved By the Bell. https://indieweb.org/User:Martymcgui.re#Code_%2F_Services
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c​apjamesg vladimyr what would the site do?
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vladimyr I have embarrassing confession to make 🙈 I never actually bought domain
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vladimyr capjamesg: return info about software powering given fedi account
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c​apjamesg Hm! feditools.link?
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gRegor I hear HWC Europe is good for encouraging buying domains, haha
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vladimyr I had to google up HWC 🙈
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[KevinMarks] Tim Bray now has grey text disease
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vladimyr feditools.link hmm
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vladimyr Not sure, cool name but tld kinda feels wrong
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vladimyr I mean it doesn't really link to anything
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gRegor what is HWC?
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club is a growing world-wide network of meetups for everyone who wants to take back their web experience from social media silos, and own their online identities & content, or just want support with blogging! https://indieweb.org/hwc
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gRegor Loqi is here to help :)
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[KevinMarks] How about .info then?
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c​apjamesg feditools.dev?
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vladimyr .info or .dev does sound nice!
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gRegor feditoo.ls
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gRegor https://domainr.com/?q=feditools
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c​apjamesg 😬
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vladimyr Lol, nice domain hack
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gRegor thanks to domainr++
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Loqi domainr has 2 karma over the last year
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vladimyr Although I'm not really sure I want to call it fedi-tools when I have exactly one idea for fedi tool :D
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vladimyr At least for now 🙃
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c​apjamesg feditool doesn’t have the same ring to it 🙈
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vladimyr Indeed :D I need to think of more tools!
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c​apjamesg gRegor we are really trying: https://indieweb.org/days_since_last_domain_purchase_at_HWC
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c​apjamesg 1 month and counting I believe!
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gRegor haha
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c​apjamesg genzipsum really reads like gen zip sum.
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c​apjamesg It should be genz ipsum.
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c​apjamesg Autocorrect really didn’t like that 🤣
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vladimyr I give up, if anyone has idea for useful fedi tool feel free to bug me to implement it simply because feditools.dev has better ring to it!
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[snarfed] .tools TLD sounds promising, fed.tools?
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[snarfed] (fedi.tools is taken)
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vladimyr f3di.tools? :D
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[schmarty] feditool.tools obvs 😂
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vladimyr Well deserved [schmarty]++
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Loqi [schmarty] has 16 karma in this channel over the last year (53 in all channels)
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c​apjamesg 🤣
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c​apjamesg tools.feditool.tools
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c​apjamesg my.tools.feditool.tools
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vladimyr goes back to hiding in the bushes
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c​apjamesg The possibilities!
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vladimyr fed.itoo.ls?
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c​apjamesg Say that out loud 😅
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[schmarty] i had a lab computer in undergrad named "itool". because i had to come up with a name to get it installed and online, i felt pressed for time. itool stands for "i'll think of one later".
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[tantek] nice
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vladimyr Did I accidentally said something nasty in Swedish?
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[tantek] will suggest in chat so squatter don't scrape from logs
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[timothy_chambe] Totally pasted the wrong link above, when talking about a new #ActivityPub Test Suite mastodon group. Here is the real link I meant to send on:
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[timothy_chambe] https://indieweb.social/@tchambers/110588820923201272
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Loqi [preview] [Tim Chambers] For everyone in #ActivtyPub #ActivityPubDev #SocialWG space: we created this mastodon-compatible Frenidica group for discussing the build-out of a robust ActivityPub test suite, akin to http://webmtion.rocks and the now gone activitypub.rocks...Just ...
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