[manton]I wish there was something we could do to get Micropub more (any?) adoption in the Mastodon dev community. There is also a lot of confusion with e.g. Threads supporting ActivityPub, people thinking you could have third-party client apps. Nope, not really.
[tantek]we need a developer-focused overview of how/why you can use Micropub (+Microsub if your client needs that) and then identify what's missing from that combination that client developers expect
[tantek]ironically I think AP C2S tried to be that "comprehensive" solution a priori but in practice fell short or had enough other problems that it was largely ignored (by Mastodon etc.)
[tantek]yes there's a combination of extensions to Micropub (and/or Microsub), and there may be opportunities for new building block "peers" of MIcropub+Microsub
[tantek]but many other clients what e.g. a detailed user profile API, to get / edit etc. so either there needs to be a "how to use Micropub to get/set user profiles" or a new "Microprofile" C2S API that encapsulates all that functionality.
aaronpkyep, and it needs to be very clear how small of a subset of everything they need to implement for that, and not feel like they are staring down a giant API rabbit hole just for that use case
[tantek]might need to rewatch that session to get a more detailed understanding of what [manton] shared about what MarsEdit would need to adopt Micropub
shreyanjain[m]i feel like it would be pretty cool to use that capability to have post urls on bluesky be canonically the same/similar to the ones on your website
LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "indieauth ecosystem" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indieauth ecosystem is ____", a sentence describing the term)
btremAnyone know of a good yaml guide? Not so much tutorials -- I've looked at several of those -- more like examples. I'm trying to figure out what might be possible with a recipe ingredient list in yaml.
btremWhenever I consider it, it seems like probably it is not possible without lots of data duplication (e.g., repeating key ingredients in a tags item). But it would be a neat idea to have a DRY automatic index.
btremYes, I'm already doing that part. I decided to do ingredients in my recipe posts in the front matter, using yaml, instead of in the post content. With the idea that maybe I can do more than just output the ingredients in the web page. But so far, that's all I can do with it.
[snarfed] mildly indieweb dev related, looks interesting: https://lu.ma/localfirstswunconf-stlouis
petermolnar epoch: there are projects like https://github.com/superseriousbusiness/gotosocial
aaronpk a guide like these for building a micropub client https://aaronparecki.com/2018/06/30/11/your-first-webmention https://aaronparecki.com/2021/04/13/26/indieauth
[tantek] a-ha, there's some hints here at what we need: https://indieweb.org/MarsEdit#IndieWeb_Support
[aciccarello] Link for desnm
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rkey" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rkey is ____", a sentence describing the term)
[KevinMarks] YAML is a superset of JSON, so it should work already in theory
rubenwardy yeah, means that you can just use json if something requires yaml
gRegor YAML << Criticism: https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2023/01/11/the-yaml-document-from-hell
[manton] [snarfed] [aaronpk] That is concerning… Just poking around a little in the commit history, the change seems to be a config file for Imagemagick? See: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/commit/987f9099947fdcd71e79d4908cdc4373eca92a85