#dev 2023-08-20

2023-08-20 UTC
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[jamietanna] Jacknemitz [barryf] wrote https://github.com/barryf/vibrancy which is a great IndieWeb-first headless CMS
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Loqi [preview] [barryf] vibrancy: Headless CMS and Micropub endpoint for personal websites. Used for the back-end of https://barryfrost.com
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Soni what's a good self-hosted atom feed showcase/viewer?
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Soni also what's with all the centralized services that are apparently "required" for indieweb?
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Soni sure selfhosting your data is cool and all but ????????? what
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capjamesg Can you elaborate Soni?
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capjamesg There aren't any requirements to use a particular service to be IndieWeb. Having a personal website is IndieWeb!
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Soni bridgy fed, webmention.io, etc
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aaronpk required?
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Soni "required"
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aaronpk please by all means run your own webmention receiver, i made webmention.io for people who don't want to
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Soni more like... strongly encouraged
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aaronpk i wouldn't call bridgy centralized either, since it doesn't actually store any data, it just translates already centralized services like twitter to webmentions that you can store on your own
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rubenwardy indieweb isn't about selfhosting, it's about owning your identity and data
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rubenwardy as long as you own your own domain and the service is open, it's fine
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rubenwardy also all those services use open source software
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[snarfed] rubenwardy++
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Loqi rubenwardy has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (5 in all channels)
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[snarfed] also I've been dying for other people to build more backfeed services (ie Bridgy alternatives) forever. almost no one has. turns out it's not easy 🤷‍♂️
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[snarfed] aaronpk++ for building one of the very few in ownyourswarm
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Loqi aaronpk has 36 karma in this channel over the last year (98 in all channels)
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aaronpk we should add an FAQ about self-hosting
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Loqi +1
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[snarfed] I think I did. Looking
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aaronpk i just added this, i didn't see any mention of hosting on the page yet https://indieweb.org/FAQ#Do_I_need_to_self-host_my_website
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[snarfed] aaronpk++ looks good! couldn't find anything I did
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[snarfed] do you have more time for all this right now because you're traveling, so you can't work on house stuff? 😆
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aaronpk lol yea
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aaronpk can't unpack boxes if i'm not at home!
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[tw2113_Slack_] they'll never be unpacked
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aaronpk eyes this box from the 2009 move
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[tw2113_Slack_] your honor, I rest my case
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[jamietanna] I was using boxes as furniture for over a year after we moved last
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[KevinMarks] When we were moving back to the UK in 2017 I found some boxes in the garage we hadn't unpacked since moving out of our UK house in 1997. My instinct was to just dump them, but R insisted we open them
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[tw2113_Slack_] did you find the ark of the covenant in it?
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[tw2113_Slack_] cause...well...that belongs in a museum
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] really curious what you did with what % of the contents of those boxes (keep, gift, donate, recycle, archive, etc.)
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[tantek] oops that should be for -> #indieweb-chat
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h​avenmatt Does micropub.rocks support PKCE? I'm trying to validate my in-progress micropub server, but my server complains that the auth request has no code_challenge
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aaronpk Oh I thought I updated it but it's possible I did not yet!
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h​avenmatt Gotcha. How new is PCKE in IndieAuth?
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aaronpk Depends on how you count 😅