#dev 2023-10-27

2023-10-27 UTC
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[KevinMarks] https://hachyderm.io/@phillmv/111263150714563797
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Loqi [preview] [phillmv] Kids these days don’t know how easy things used to be. You needed data, you fetched it from the database. You wanted to update something, you submitted a form.Now, you can’t tie your own shoe without running npm install. THEY HAVE TAKEN US FOR FO...
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epoch so, re: AP and json-ld
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epoch I found that sometimes something will be an object, or an array of objects
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epoch and it seems to stem from json-ld normalization or something
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epoch so, if you aren't going to use json-ld stuff, you'll have to handle both cases for anything you might ever expect to see in an object more than once.
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epoch like, tags, attatachments, etc
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[KevinMarks] this is why everything in mf2 parsing is an array
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[snarfed] don't forget the compacted case where it's just a string id
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[snarfed] so many options to choose from^H^H crash your code
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[snarfed] [KevinMarks]++ yeah that's so nice
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Loqi [KevinMarks] has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (41 in all channels)
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aaronpk Always treat all external input as adversarial
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[tw2113] "why is that webmention coming in? it looks sus"
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] I dislike the #t syntax because it requires HTML pages to use JS, whereas the YouTube style ?t= media fragment can be handled fully server side without JS! As you noted the server can translate that into a #t link on the actual embedded media resource
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[KevinMarks] That makes sense. I updated my example https://www.kevinmarks.com/hotlinkmp3.html
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[KevinMarks] I had a quick look, and only safari shows a chapter track in a video element, and only as a popup menu, chrome and firefox don't, so that is not a good alternative.
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[KevinMarks] updated example again
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[KevinMarks] it is a bit of a shame that chapters UI in web audio/video is worse than we had in QuickTime 25 years ago
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[tantek] Chapters in time media are insufficient like headings in visual media are insufficient yet worse in time media because it is MUCH easier to scan down from a heeding visually than it is to scrub forward from a chapter start
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[tantek] So any chapters UI is kinda meh regardless of how good a job the publisher or media UI does
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[Jo] Hi. Does adding microformats to a mail signature make sense
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[tantek] Like for HTML email?
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[Jo] Yeah
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[schmarty] I don't think any mail reading apps look for microformats at this time, so there wouldn't be anything to find it.
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[Jo] Yeah i thought so
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[tantek] I can see it making sense for when you POSSE a post to a public email list, for the original post on your site
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[tantek] This week's indiewebcamp will be a good one for timezone coding & testing, especially if you dare to code on Saturday and test on Sunday
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GWG I love timezone coding
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superkuh shudders.
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aaronpk it's satisfying when you get it to work
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GWG aaronpk: I inspired myself with yours
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[snarfed] I think Bridgy Fed got a mention on today's Vergecast at 1:01:15 : https://pca.st/oit5e4cc
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[snarfed] "There's already some connector software that connects Bluesky's decentralized approach to the ActivityPub decentralized approach, and you can see how that thing is just designed to piss everyone off."
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[snarfed] "Like the app when you need to move music services, and you always think it'll work, and it never does."
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[snarfed] "We'll just see how this goes."
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aaronpk 😂
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[snarfed] I mean...they're not entirely wrong 😂
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[snarfed] "some connector software" is definitely now the new BF tagline
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aaronpk +1
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aaronpk I also don't think of bridgy as bluesky<->activitypub but i guess if you hook up enough things then it could be
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[snarfed] I expect they meant Fed, since I've been talking about that a lot, and we haven't announced Bluesky in classic yet
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[tantek] I think there's some other direct AP<->bsky bridge/proxy
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[sebsel] [aaronpk] I’ve been using Atlases maps (idk if you want to support that still, it’s okay) but the maps now show a message that the service will shut down end of this month
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Loqi [sebsel]: [tantek] left you a message on 2023-01-18 at 2:52pm UTC: are you still maintaining the Kirby Webmention plug-in, or know who is? https://www.sesin.at/2023/01/18/cve-2017-20174-bastianallgeier-kirby-webmentions-plugin-injection/
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[sebsel] i don’t see the message on the maps on your site, so maybe you switched to another thing? if that’s the solution, please say so :)
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[sebsel] @tantek: oops, that looks old now, but no, I only maintained a fork of it, and only for the v2 of Kirby
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[sebsel] hmm, will have to look into that tho.
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[sebsel] probably related: https://seblog.nl/2017/02/13/3/how-i-hacked-my-own-site
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[sebsel] (please dont hack but just tell me)
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Loqi [preview] [Sebastiaan Andeweg] How I hacked my own site by feeding it a profile picture via webmention
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aaronpk ooh
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aaronpk stamen tiles are dropping the free tier IIRC
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aaronpk you can switch to one of the other tilesets
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aaronpk https://atlas.p3k.io/static-maps
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aaronpk if you want to use one that has an API key like mapbox you can use `tileurl`
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[sebsel] oh nice, okay! that sounds like a manageable project
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aaronpk quick fix is change `stamen-toner` or whatever to `gray`
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[KevinMarks] I switched to the other site that's hosting stamen and signed up and they don't seem to detect my usage
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[schmarty] stamen is getting out of the tile-hosting game. they have an agreement with Stadia to host the stamen toner tiles at a Stadia domain. generous free tier. details in https://indieweb.org/static_maps#Services