#dev 2023-11-25

2023-11-25 UTC
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[jacky]
tbh rbindgen makes that easy 🤔
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[jacky]
heh I'll add that to the 100 days of indieweb project idea list
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[tantek]
👀 list?
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[jacky]
ha yeah I figured I'd do it when I had a long enough list to last me that long but also with quirky projects
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[jacky]
something _almost_ worthy to demo at a place like https://bangbangcon.com/ lol
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[tantek]
That's a good idea. I’m also collecting lists of various things to make (like new Wikipedia pages, with citations of course) and May choose some even number (maybe 30 though, 100 is a lot 😂 )
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[tantek]
Why does iOS autocorrect change may to May?
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[tantek]
Like wtf that's not the more common use
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[snarfed]
sandra yes! BF will bridge any existing fediverse account into ATProto. same with any other supported protocols (eg IndieWeb), any direction
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sandra
[snarfed]: That is wonderful!
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[tantek]
Meetable++ for supporting Webmention updates! The 10th anniversary HWC event had ?xml garbage at the start of GWG's comment (review), so I re-sent the webmention and the ?xml stuff disappeared!
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Loqi
Meetable has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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GWG
I fixed the problem.
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GWG
Should have thought to resend
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sandra
[snarfed]: OK, so in the rightmost of your three screenshots here: https://snarfed.org/2023-11-07_bridgy-fed-status-update-8
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sandra
What happens of someone else (on AP but on another instance) would reply to the comment by @arroba6.snarfed.org@atproto.brid.gy? Would that reply show up on AT? Which would mean:
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sandra
• Running an instance of the bridge to bring your instance's posts to AT would also create a bridge that a ton of other people might use, and
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sandra
What if there was a way to find a canonical bridged account for each account…? 🤔 (Maybe not a good idea, just thinking out loud…)
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sandra
• There are gonna be lots of @Alice.foo.bar@[various AT->AP bridges] accounts and lots of @Alice.quux.qux.[various AP-AT bridges] accounts. Duplicates of every person who's crossed over. Maybe even recursively, someone who's bridged and then rebridged and then rebridged.
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sandra
I tried replying here but I don't know if that showed up on the AT side: https://idiomdrottning.org/notice/Ac9y3rTDF9Ab9Px2jw
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sandra
Also dots in username doesn't work everywhere. Or I would have my email/xmpp sandra.snan@idiomdrottning.org also be my Fedi username with an @ in front.
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Loqi
[preview] [Sandra] @arroba6.snarfed.org@atproto.brid.gy Hello AT
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[snarfed]
sandra you're thinking a lot about bridging details! that's great! love it
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[snarfed]
first thing that will be useful to look at is https://fed.brid.gy/docs#translate
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[snarfed]
as for multiple bridges, you're absolutely right, they will create duplicates. the protocols themselves are open, so I don't know that there's a way to enforce eg only one official/allowed/canonical bridge, nor would we really want to, but yes, there will probably be ways to help de-dupe, eg https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/fffd/fep-fffd.md for AP
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[snarfed]
re "What happens of someone else (on AP but on another instance) would reply to the comment by @arroba6.snarfed.org@atproto.brid.gy?" yes, that reply would show up on ATProto on the other side
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[snarfed]
I'm not actively working on canonicalizing/de-duping right now, still lots of work just to get basic bridging working. the main thing I'm doing is positioning Bridgy Fed as a single service, not software that people would host themselves
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[snarfed]
(it's open source, so they can, but I don't plan to encourage or support it)
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sandra
[snarfed]: A friend of mine also asked if you could bridge an existing AT and an existing AP (I didn't really understand why he wanted to do that)
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[snarfed]
like, one would mirror the other's posts?
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[snarfed]
that's more traditional cross posting, possible now, I think there's a tool to do it
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[snarfed]
cross posting is always more brittle and never works as well
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sandra
Also, I don't wanna be annoying with all my questions on Bridgy Fed! Just stoked
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sandra
[snarfed]: I'm pretty sure that's what he meant.
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sandra
It doesn't make full sense to me to have a one-instance, everyone-use-the-same-bridge software
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[snarfed]
definitely not annoying!
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[snarfed]
and totally, I'm all for plurality, with bridges and everything else
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[snarfed]
I probably would discourage people from hosting alternative instances of Bridgy Fed itself. it has functionality that depends on its specific subdomains, and having different versions running in different places could confuse end users who need support, etc
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[snarfed]
but again, it's open source, I can't stop anyone
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[snarfed]
(^ all same with Bridgy classic)
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[snarfed]
also, basic cross posting from one account to another is relatively easy. however, full bidirectional bridging of all interactions - replies, likes, reposts, profile updates, blocks, etc - is much harder
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