#dev 2024-05-01

2024-05-01 UTC
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[Murray]
the number of requests I'm seeing for "hosting that will cap your spending at a pre-set amount and just take the site offline" is definitely increasing, but I've yet to see a really solid competitor that doesn't engage in this ridiculous practice suggested as an alternative
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ryokagriffin
saw this earlier, tangentially related but I wanted to post it anyway
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ryokagriffin
http://ipv6.rs/
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ryokagriffin
essentially an ipv6 tunnel you can pay for to your own equipment to allow you to self host on your hardware
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IWDiscord
<r​yokagriffin>
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jeremycherfas
Getting errors from heroku.webmention.com and need to work out why, so using an example to ask why they don't seem to be received at https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/make-it-simpler
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_tommys
I made a flask app that gets around the newest Discogs UI - for those that don't know, Discogs updated their UI so you can no longer sort by 'original release date' on artist pages. Super annoying if you're more interested in when something was originall released, rather than when the latest reissues came out.
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_tommys
It's very rough, and the Discogs API isn't all that great, but it is still better than manually clicking every listing on the Discogs site 😂
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IWDiscord
<_​tommys>
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IWDiscord
<_​tommys>
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_tommys
An example of eating one's own dog food
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capjamesg
_tommys[d]++
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Loqi
_tommys[d] has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (5 in all channels)
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capjamesg
Very cool!
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_tommys
thanks to this community i had the confidence to 'just make the thing that i wish existed' 😁
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capjamesg
This is what the web should be about!
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[tantek]
_tommys++ great! yes! makewhatyouwant++
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Loqi
_tommys has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (6 in all channels)
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Loqi
makewhatyouwant has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek]
what is make what you want?
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Loqi
Make what you need is an IndieWeb principle that helps creators focus on creating & publishing things prioritized by what they need & want for their own personal site https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_want
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[tantek]
aside: I'm lurking in the "ActivityPub Issue Triage" meeting going on rn which is fairly open if anyone is curious to also lurk: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/600c916e-b081-4e72-97b7-3449de760bc4/
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mcepl
Are there any known problems with GPG signing to https://indieauth.com/? It used to work for me, but suddenly it doesn’t. (my OpenID is https://matej.ceplovi.cz, GPG key 0xD96484AC) Using this script:
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mcepl
#!/bin/sh
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mcepl
echo "$@" | gpg --clearsign --armor
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[tantek]
aaronpk ^ ?
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aaronpk
hmm i haven't tested that in a while
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aaronpk
weird, i see some success messages in the logs for you too
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parnikkapore_x
Hi all, I want to try out Bridgy Fed with my website. Unfortunately, my site's feed is not on the home page, and it looks like Bridgy Fed doesn't support using feeds that are not on the homepage. I don't want to put my feed on the home page, as the site is more like a portfolio and less like a blog. What should I do?
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[tantek]
hmmm! [snarfed] ^ something for the FAQ?
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[aciccarello]
I trigger pushing via bridgy fed via a webmention
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[aciccarello]
Shouldn't depend on the homepage
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parnikkapore_x
thanks! I guess that's one way to do it, although not ideal
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[tantek]
parnikkapore_x it works fine both manually (e.g. using mention.tech, this is what I do), and automatically if your publishing system/software can automatically send webmentions for each new post (an include an empty link to http://fed.brid.gy in your post footer)
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[tantek]
seems/feels more reliable than depending on homepage polling, and certainly lower latency (you federate immediately upon publishing, rather than waiting for your feed to be polled eventually)
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[tantek]
feed polling is not ideal
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parnikkapore_x
*cries in static site host*
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[snarfed]
confirmed, BF only supports homepage-advertised feeds right now, webmention is the alternative
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[tantek]
what is webmentionapp?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "webmentionapp" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "webmentionapp is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
parnikkapore_x, check out https://indieweb.org/Webmention#webmention.app which I believe you can give it any feed URL and it will poll / send the webmentions for you on a static site!
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gRegor
what is webmention.app
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Loqi
Webmention is an open web standard (W3C Recommendation) for conversations and interactions across the web, a powerful building block used for a growing distributed network of peer-to-peer comments, likes, reposts, and other responses across the web https://indieweb.org/webmention.app
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parnikkapore_x
I actually have my own variant of that on Glitch (I want to use it for the "paste the link to your reply here" form, so it's important that the response is displayable HTML); the problem is that it's yet another thing I'd have to do during publishing is all
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parnikkapore_x
For now, I've set up an rss via Granary (link tag, so it's OK). Now it's just a matter of if posts actually federate :)
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parnikkapore_x
(for some reason I'm a bit annoyed that it doesn't ingest h-feeds...
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[snarfed]
yeah good point. I guess the expectation was that h-feed correlates pretty highly with sending outbound wms, but not perfectly
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parnikkapore_x
maybe 🙂️
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