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GWG aaronpk: There you are
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capjamesg[d] My static site generator now has documentation https://aurora.jamesg.blog.
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lazcorp I did some experiments and discovered that if you want to stop Microsoft's Copilot "AI Companion" from using your website's data in its responses then you probably need to get de-indexed from Bing
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lazcorp https://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/blogs/artists-notebook/posts/overlap-between-search-bots-and-ai-scrapers
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Loqi [preview] [Paul Watson] The overlap between search bots and AI scrapers
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[tantek] Yikes but also makes sense
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[tantek] capjamesg[d]++ congrats on the launch!
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thepaperpilot If I have a footer with a minimal h-card that links to my /about page with a complete h-card (including my rel-me links), would that mean all my silo accounts that I'm trying to "connect" via rel-me need to link /about instead of my homepage?
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thepaperpilot I'd just rather link *people* to the homepage
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[Otto_Rask] ↩️ been wondering about the same thing
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[Otto_Rask] ↩️ i mean i link silo accounts to home and at least validators say its ok and indieauth works and so on
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capjamesg[d] I just released the first version of indieweb utils in over a year 😄
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[tantek] lazcorp++ good article
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thepaperpilot [Otto_Rask] do your linkbacks validate on https://indiewebify.me/validate-rel-me ? I have my homepage linked on them all but indiewebify says none of them link back (I presume because it wants them to return /about)
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thepaperpilot It'
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thepaperpilot [edit] It's not very DRY, but I think I'll have them visible on /about but also have them in <link> elements in every page's header
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thepaperpilot [edit] It's not very DRY, but I think I'll have them visible on /about but also have them in <link> elements in every page's head
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[tw2113] Iget the fun of working with OAuth2 for a client project. The only downside are the moment is that it’s only password grant initially. Hoping to get that changed
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thepaperpilot Actually, even placing the links in the head didn't fix all the linkbacks according to https://indiewebify.me/validate-rel-me/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepaperpilot.org
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[snarfed] thepaperpilot I have that setup too, and I rel-me link to my home page, not /about
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[snarfed] more: https://indieweb.org/h-card#Issues , https://indieweb.org/representative_h-card
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[Otto_Rask] @thepaperpilot that validator says that I have backlinks working for some, not all
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thepaperpilot to be clear, at this point I have links in the \<head> element (on every page!) to each of my silo accounts, and they all have a link to my homepage, but when I use the validator on my homepage, it shows \~half as not working (not counting the email, matrix, and /about links)
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thepaperpilot okay so its perhaps an issue on the validator's end?
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thepaperpilot is there a validator y'all recommend instead?
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[snarfed] oh, you're thinking about bidirectional rel-me more than h-card consumers, ok
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[snarfed] I mean http://indiewebify.me is right, most of silos link back to your site but not with rel-me
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[tantek] some use rel=me
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[snarfed] right
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[tantek] or rather, "some sites with social profiles use rel=me"
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[snarfed] but you can't really control their markup
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[tantek] e.g. GitHub, Wikipedia, etc.
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[snarfed] we're looking at the silos on https://indiewebify.me/validate-rel-me/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepaperpilot.org that don't
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[tantek] some you have to get their "profile website field" via a proprietary API, which is equivalent to a rel=me
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[snarfed] hah sorry I see the confusion, typo on my part, by "most of silos link back" I actually meant "most of _your_ silos link back"
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thepaperpilot okay, so essentially I've done everything right on my end?
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[snarfed] rel-me is mostly separate from h-card, but sure, you have lots of outbound rel-mes on https://www.thepaperpilot.org/, and you've tried to link them all back as much as possible, so afaict yes
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thepaperpilot snarfed++ thanks :)
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lazcorp [tantek] thank you!
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