#dev 2024-06-24

2024-06-24 UTC
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lazcorp Does anyone have FediTest (https://feditest.org/) installed and is willing to run a test against my initial implementation on my server?
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lazcorp (it looks like hours/days of yak-shaving for me to set it up)
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capjamesg[d] My site generator now has a blog template: https://github.com/capjamesg/aurora-blog-template/
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[schmarty] jacky++ good find! i remember using dillo as my "daily driver" back in like 2003 😂
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Loqi jacky has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (39 in all channels)
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[schmarty] was sad to read this, wooof: https://dillo-browser.github.io/dillo.org.html
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[schmarty] lost their domain and so made the official project website `http://dillo-browser.github.io`!??
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[snarfed] domain admin tax can be more difficult than keeping a github account 😢
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[snarfed] same thing happened to http://ostatus.org/
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ipv6rs The DAT is unfortunate. It has lead to quite a many EPL exploits (Expired Phishing Like) as domains can expire, a user can create an alias 'name@expired.com' and 'forgot password' with any such service that offers this. No developers have taken this into consideration and thus no verification of MX nor any form of GPG/pubkey encryption is deployed.
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ipv6rs With the exception of the insecurity of DNSSEC, EPL is one of the biggest problems with e-mails (and using these for authentication) today.
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sebbu dnssec is the prerequisite to dkim dmarc spf
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[schmarty] 🤔
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sebbu chadsix, i think i had an email on a hoster that died, and the hoster's provider's website died too
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sebbu but the hoster still work, the subdomain doesn't
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sebbu not even sure who to contact anymore, the hoster is just a login page now, and the provider domain has been hijack to an online pharmacy (prob scam :p)
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sebbu i don't even remember where i was subscribed with that email
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: yup, logging into https://indielogin.com worked fine
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aaronpk great
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gRegor Internet Archive helped me rescue some Flickr photos I embedded in a 2007 post. That was pretty cool. I wasn't sure they were archiving images that far back. I thought they only had HTML backups until a certain point.
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gRegor It also gave me the idea of putting an automatic link to the IA archive on older posts like "see what this post looked like when published." I had kind of forgotten about my 2007 design.
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[Joe_Crawford] I have done a lot of retroactive additions to posts to get the best representation of them, sometimes that's IA. sometimes changed urls. But not automated it. Linkrot is PAIN. And I've gotten lucky a few times on lost photos with IA. Lucky 70% / Unlucky 30% I'd say. Always better than nothing.
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gRegor Yeah, my initial thought is just linking to web.archive.org/web/YYYYMMDD/[my_url], so it would go to the closest snapshot. If there isn't a snapshot that's OK.
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gRegor For links inside the post, I've been adding IA links after them like "(archived)" as I go through old posts.
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gRegor All the more reason for me to send my URLs to IA shortly after publishing. Some example code on /Internet_Archive
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gRegor Also lost to time, but I was reminded I used to put rel=external on links in the posts and had some JS that would open them in a new window. No idea why I did that instead of target=_blank, which I definitely knew about at the time, haha
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gRegor Don't see it on https://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values. It was probably some SEO "advice" or something I read in early 2000s
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[tantek] yeah I think various times folks proposed rel=external and from a dev perspective it's not strictly necessary. like literally your href is to your domain or not, why add labor/tax/DRY-violation with having to add an explicit rel value for that?
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[tantek] internet archive << Brainstorming: use-case for auto-archiving your own posts via {{gregor}} in dev chat: <blockquote>automatic link to the IA archive on older posts like "see what this post looked like when published."</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "Brainstorming: use-case for auto-archiving your own posts via {{gregor}} in dev chat: <blockquote>automatic link to the IA archive on older posts like "see what this post looked like when published."</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /Internet_Archive https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=95930&oldid=90988
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gRegor I definitely later changed my mind on always opening external links in a new tab. I figure people generally know how to open links in a new tab, so let them choose.
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paperbritt I made the mistake of deleting my Flickr without any kind of archive backup a while back and sadly it seems the internet archives didn't hit much of my old photo stream. I'm left wondering which photos I linked to, I have local copies of the photos themselves but not with matching titles and tags and apparently 2009 me didn't know about descriptions.
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gRegor Ouch :/
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lazcorp Managed to get FediTest (https://feditest.org/) working on my local machine, with thanks to capjamesg[d]++
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Loqi capjamesg[d] has 42 karma in this channel over the last year (201 in all channels)
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lazcorp And I now have a full set of passed tests on the webfinger endpoint
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[snarfed] lazcorp++
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Loqi lazcorp has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (11 in all channels)
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lazcorp [snarfed] - are you planning to run the test suite on Bridgy Fed?
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capjamesg[d] You are welcome!
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capjamesg[d] I'm glad you got everything up and running.
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[snarfed] lazcorp they already did! https://feditest.org/contrib/results/2024-06-16/index.Bridgy-Fed.html
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lazcorp [snarfed] It didn't take me long to fix the failed tests on my site (and I had more fails than you!), so hopefully you'll get them done quickly
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lazcorp (where you agree that the test is a correct one)
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[snarfed] yes! I've already done that for most of the failures, at least webfinger
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lazcorp [snarfed]++
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