#dev 2024-10-14

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[tantek] [mattl] this looks like a very IndieWeb sorta project https://walzr.com/bop-spotter — and would be amazing to hook it up to http://libre.fm
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[tantek] hmm last /listen was from Oct 7 so I wonder if it's down or something. it was publicized here: https://sfstandard.com/2024/10/01/bop-spotter-shazam-the-mission/
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[mattl] i think someone found it, sadly.
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[tantek] like it was stolen?!?
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aaronpk I want to make one of those so bad haha
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[mattl] Stolen or shut down
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[tantek] Yeah needed better stealth engineering. File it away in the "this is why we can't have nice things" department
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[tantek] On another topic
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[tantek] looks like we don't actually document search engine oneboxes anywhere that I can see in general, and how to code your indieweb site to show up better in them. I wonder if anyone has blog posts about this (no not SEO) with specific examples that work *today*
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[mattl] https://github.com/urin/vscode-web-visual-editor
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sebsel oh, so gimme-a-token.5eb.nl is down? I’ll try to fix that as soon as I have a computer. But yes, it is also just one page of HTML, so it should be easy to self-host
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samlittlefair Hey everyone, I just open-sourced the codebase for my static site generator: https://github.com/samlfair/vowel
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samlittlefair I'd love to know what you think. And, if you want to support the project, please chuck a ⭐️ star ⭐️ on the repo!
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samlittlefair [edit] Hey everyone, I just open-sourced the codebase for my static site generator: https://github.com/samlfair/vowel
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samlittlefair I'd love to know what you think. And, if you want to support the project, please chuck a ⭐️ star ⭐️ on the repo!
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Loqi [preview] [samlfair] vowel: The easiest way to code a website
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Loqi [preview] [samlfair] vowel: The easiest way to code a website
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[tantek] for [mattl]: https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftantek.com%2F
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Loqi [preview] Tantek Çelik
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gRegor what is opensearch
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Loqi OpenSearch is a specification and web browser feature for publishing, discovering, and adding new search engines to browsers, supported by the IndieWeb community site and a few personal sites https://indieweb.org/OpenSearch
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gRegor Is that what you mean by 'search onebox' [tantek]? Not sure I'm familiar with that term
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[tantek] what is a featured snippet
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "featured snippet" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "featured snippet is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] gRegor, "Onebox" used to be a Google-specific term for whenever Google Search results would show a literal "box" with larger text with some sort of summary answer BEFORE "normal" search results
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[tantek] Here's a specific example. The calculator you see at the top of this search result page is a "Onebox": https://www.google.com/search?q=2%2B2
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gRegor Ahh, gotcha
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gRegor Yeah I've used the calculator one often. Actually the "no, don't show me the AI search result summary" thing I have enabled seems to have broken that, for calculator at least.
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gRegor It adds query param `udm=14` to skip the AI summary
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[tantek] interesting
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[tantek] gosh this is a horrible redirect that is way out of date: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Featured_snippet&redirect=no
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_pi_r2_0[d] [tantek] AFAICT https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux is the state of the art for a full Unix toolchain on Android
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_pi_r2_0[d] [edit] [tantek] AFAICT https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux is the state of the art for a full Unix toolchain on Android
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[tantek] we're brainstorming about using rel-search and OpenSearch for a personal CLI based on code at your personal site
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capjamesg[d] I stress that this is _heavily_ limited, but I put the IndieWeb wiki backup in my search engine to see how it would feel: https://jamesg.blog/search-pages/?q=category:wiki%20rel%20search&page=1
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capjamesg[d] [tantek] ^^
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capjamesg[d] [edit] I stress that this is _heavily_ limited, but I put the IndieWeb wiki backup in my search engine to see how it would feel: https://jamesg.blog/search-pages/?q=category:wiki%20rel%20search&page=1
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capjamesg[d] (Special symbols don't work; ranking is a bit off since the algorithm was designed for my blog; data cleaning isn't great.)
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capjamesg[d] It's also slow, probably because it is so much more data than my site and the app is single-threaded.
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capjamesg[d] https://jamesg.blog/search-pages/?q=category:wiki%20tinbox&page=1
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capjamesg[d] [edit] https://jamesg.blog/search-pages/?q=category:wiki%20tinbox&page=1
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capjamesg[d] Webmention ranks artificially high because of a link graph I build on index; I would need to give that ranking factor more drag for this data.
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[tantek] haha wow capjamesg[d]++
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Loqi capjamesg[d] has 37 karma in this channel over the last year (194 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] I now know that JameSQL scales to 11k real-world documents nicely 😄
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capjamesg[d] https://github.com/capjamesg/jamesql
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capjamesg[d] [edit] https://github.com/capjamesg/jamesql
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Loqi [preview] [capjamesg] jamesql: An in-memory NoSQL database implemented in Python.
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Loqi [preview] [capjamesg] jamesql: An in-memory NoSQL database implemented in Python.