#dev 2025-04-22
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Loqi serverless is doublethink jargon that misleadingly refers to web applications that completely depend on someone else’s servers (rather than no servers as a literal interpretation would imply), often through proprietary function as a service (FaaS) services, like AWS_Lambda, which have been used for experimental IndieWeb building blocks implementations https://indieweb.org/serverless
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "\0" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "\0 is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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perryflynn hello, to follow up the topic from #indieweb (I just found out about indieweb, have already a site and try to understand interconnectivity between sites via webmentions): I think https://indieweb.org/webmention-implementation-guide is that what I needed for an example. Since my page is static generated, I would just create a dedicated app in PHP and store incoming mentions in a DB. This could be
# perryflynn then fetched and included into the page on the regular rebuild of the page. or maybe as a java script add-in.
# carrvo perryflynn, that is correct. Afew extra notes...
# carrvo webmention.io may or may not have an already suitable functionality for you, or could be a reference for your own app implementation.
# carrvo If you choose to go the JavaScript route, then readers can see webmentions sooner (yay) but will come with more requests (check whether the performance matters).
# carrvo If you choose the regular rebuild route, readers will not see the webmention until the next rebuild. Either think about how frequently you want it (likely you have done this) or consider triggering/scheduling a rebuild when you receive a webmention.
# perryflynn will take a look to webmention.io, thanks. but I would like to avoid being dependent on 3rd party services as best as possible. so depnding on how complex it becomes after the first test implementation I hope I just need a really dumb PHP api which interconnects with webmentions and the jekyll build process. :-)
# perryflynn right now the rebuild is taking place once per day, for scheduled blog posts, but I could imagine to do it up to once per hour. other blogs I read using JS add-ins to show comments posted on mastodon already, so maybe this is the perfect chance to implement my fist custom html component. :-)
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# perryflynn a webmention bridge which receives "real" webmentions and also collects comments from mastodon would be perfect for my use case. (already seen bridgely)
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gRegor Check out https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer#Libraries as well, there's a PHP lib in there
# carrvo I think webmention.io is open source so you could use it as inspiration for your own too!
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[schmarty] For sure!
# [schmarty] What is Morris?
# Loqi Morris is a self-hosted PHP service for storing Webmentions from webmention.io in a JSON format that static sites can use to render them without querying webmention.io on each build https://indieweb.org/Morris
# perryflynn uuuh, interesting. will check these out afte I got some sleep. thank you, good night and see you later!
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[artlung] Speaking of webmentions... I just updated my recent "Likes" page to support non-webmention supporting links. You know, like regular links. https://artlung.com/likes/ I make a distinction of look and feel of the date on the link between ones with webmentions sent and accepted and ones without.