#dev 2025-06-02
2025-06-02 UTC
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[morganm] I often type directly into and commit to main ;)
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# [morganm] Successfully completed Step 1 of https://indiewebify.me/
# [morganm] And Step 2
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[KevinMarks] [artlung] I was at the Tate Modern exhibition called Electric Dreams yesterday, about early electronic and perceptual art, and one of the rooms had the walla and ceiling tiled with a pixellated pink/blue pattern. It did really odd things in my peripheral vision.
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# [Trevor_Morris] I'm still confused with https://indiewebify.me – I have made some updates and still can't get it to find h-cards on pages. I have it working on https://links.trovster.com but it doesn't find h-cards on the homepage, and on the about page and my cv it shows a Mastodon h-card, but not those which have more information including `u-photo` and `p-name` etc. https://indielogin.com shows I can login via GitHub with `rel="me"` from my both
# [Trevor_Morris] my main site and links subdomain.
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[artlung] [KevinMarks] Looks like good fun. https://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-modern/electric-dreams I remember reading in art books about pop art about "op" art and liking the fact that one could make art entirely about messing with the eye (and mostly the brain)
# [artlung] [Trevor_Morris] - it does seem to pick up your name, urls, a note, and a nickname: https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-card/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinks.trovster.com%2F -- this parser gives a more technical overview of how it's being parsed, maybe that will help? https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinks.trovster.com - with that I can see your photo is picked up but it's identifying some other elements as photo urls as well.
# [Trevor_Morris] [artlung] thanks for looking. The links subdomain seems to work OK, it is my main domain that I can't understand why they're not being picked up.
# [artlung] https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftrovster.com maybe helpful then?
# [Trevor_Morris] Yeah, that does give a lot more information, which is what I expect.
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[manton] ActivityPub people, I learned some things about Ghost’s implementation over the weekend. Sharing it in case it helps others: https://www.manton.org/2025/06/02/ghost-compatibility-notes.html
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[schmarty] manton++ i bet these will help a lot of folks! on the other hand, oof, more conneg--
# [manton] [doesnm] I’m not sure. I think this is going to be an issue for Ghost regardless of ActivityPub. If you create a note in Ghost, shouldn’t you be able to link to it and share the URL with others? There’s no way to do that right now that I can see. So blog posts are public, but note posts exist in their own world.
# [Trevor_Morris] [gRegorLove] nope, nothing like Cloudflare or anything.
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# [morganm] Ive marked up my website with an hcard and posts with h-entries. Seems like a bigger jump to start doing web mentions or otherwise, I dont have a full grasp on the next steps
# [morganm] I see the value and appreciate the work done, its not imposing in a way, Im still just not sure if its something Ill dive into yet. Still learning 🙂
# [morganm] Can someone give me a practical example of something that others are able to do with my website now that it has hcard and entries?
# perryflynn The h-card is mainly used to display a picture and your name if one would like to link your website.
# perryflynn the main workflow for any interaction is that when one receives a webmention the source url is downloaded and then inspected for a h-entry and/or a h-card. if a h-entry is for example a like or a reply, the receiving party can decide to list this reaction on their website.
# perryflynn there are also feed readers / social readers which can parse h-entry directly without using RSS or similar.
# [schmarty] perryflynn++ great examples!
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[aciccarello] To start, you can manually send webmentions with something like https://telegraph.p3k.io and a webmention endpoint like http://webmention.io would then parse the microformats on your site to pull things like the post title and your author h-card name/avatar.
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# [schmarty] morganm: here's an example! i made a like of one of your posts. the microformats on your post was used by my site to make the reply-context with author info, post date, title, and summary: https://martymcgui.re/2025/06/02/180904/
# [morganm] 👀 Nice! Ok, Ill give telegraph a look soon
# [schmarty] perryflynn mentioned feed readers, above. if your https://www.morganwebdev.org/posts/ page had h-entry markup for each post, an reader with microformat support could pick it up. you can use Monocle's preview tool to look for pages with h-feeds / collections of h-entry https://monocle.p3k.io/preview?url=https://www.morganwebdev.org/posts/
# [schmarty] (here's monocle's preview of my posts page for example https://monocle.p3k.io/preview?url=https://martymcgui.re/posts/)
# [morganm] Ok, so I see the H-entries effect on individual posts but not the aggregate page https://monocle.p3k.io/preview?url=https://www.morganwebdev.org/posts/invited-expert/
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# [Sophie_Young] finally got my website back up after a couple days of downtime.... oops
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gRegor Oh, another handy use-case is you can convert an h-feed into Atom using /granary. I do that so I don't have to maintain another feed file. I set up redirects, so https://gregorlove.com/stream/feed.atom passes off to Granary to generate the Atom direct from my microformats.
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