#dev 2025-06-23

2025-06-23 UTC
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[mattl] macOS users: what terminal emulator app do you use?
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[snarfed] emacs
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[mattl] interesting… which version of Emacs?
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[snarfed] (that's helpful right? 😎)
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[mattl] well i know way too much about Emacs
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[snarfed] hah nice
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[artlung] iTerm2 + Oh My Zsh which despite feeling brittle in how it updates manages to be really useful.
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[mattl] I did the cover art for the manual amongst other things 🙂
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[snarfed] oh man awesome!
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[snarfed] version, um...29.4. installed with brew install emacs-mac --with-native-compilation
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[snarfed] seems like I'm dragging us off on a tangent, but always happy to talk emacs
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[mattl] [artlung] I use omz too… I’ve been using Prompt by Panic because I like having a terminal emulator on my phone, but it comes with a Mac version too.
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[social] I went back to default Apple Teriminal
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[snarfed] personally I use shell-mode, not eshell or term-mode
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[mattl] snarfed: I started using Emacs before vim existed 🙂
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[snarfed] 🤷
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[snarfed] hah oh sure, vi vs vm
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[mattl] yeah, vim will always be something for the Amiga for me
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[social] I have used Promt by Panic as well, but I’ve not been able to get a connection to the host I moved to in 2020 (or so).
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[snarfed] when did I start using emacs...1998. probably later than you 😁
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[mattl] [social] ssh connection?
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[artlung] I never got a proper physical keyboard for any iPad. So when I use a terminal on an iPad it's a sign shit has gone sideways on machines I have responsibility for. So I inadvertently created for myself a negative association for using a Terminal on a tablet.
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[mattl] snarfed: I installed neovim today, thinking I might give it a look sometime. I do like the whole LSP thing… I’ve been back on Ruby for a few weeks now and loving it.
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[artlung] _"I have system administration to do and I have no computer."_ Sequel to _"I have no mouth and I must scream."_
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[social] The API key I had was borked so SSH wouldn’t complete its setup. But, most of my connection to my host is done with Nova from Panic or Transport from Panic and there is a way to deal with all the back end systems editing I need, but use BBEdit to modify related system files.
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[mattl] Yeah, I’d like to get away from that as much as possible. I mostly use the terminal in my apartment to restart things from across the room because I’m lazy af.
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[mattl] I’d like to get BBedit working with LSP stuff. Right now I’m using VSCode and don’t like it.
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[mattl] or Nova.
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[mattl] or Textmate or even GNU Emacs.
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[social] I just realized I can sync my Panic connection strings to Prompt
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[social] I have a keyboard for my iPad Pro 13, but it is only attached about 10% of the time.
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[artlung] _yeah, vim will always be something for the Amiga for me [mattl]_ - errr... I've forgotten if we ever talked Amiga stuff. I loved my Amiga 1000 so much.
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[social] I’m ready to have VS Code wander in front of a flame thrower
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[mattl] I had an 8-bit computer with a cassette drive until 1996, as such as I hate the entire 16-bit computer age…
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[mattl] I am now finally being drawn to the Amiga in my later years.
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[artlung] https://smorgasborg.artlung.com/guru-meditation/
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[social] and… remembering Prompt’s server SSH connections are different authentication than other transfer method authentication.
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[mattl] [artlung] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE1jXbVAGJQEORz9nZqb5bQ
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[mattl] [social] are you coming from Transmit?
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[artlung] I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4EFkspO5p4 and LOVED IT. And I had a copy of that image.
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[social] Transmit & Nova / Coda
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[mattl] [artlung] yeah, I just watched his video on trackers. I was never quite into them as I couldn’t play them but I did try and mess around with MIDI.
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perryflynn I lade my first custom web component: https://files.serverless.industries/lab/svrlsterm/
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perryflynn *made my first
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[mattl] Nice! Are you going to make the cursor blink?
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perryflynn thought about it, but nah. I am happy that I could do the cursor hiding with raw css.
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aaronpk css animation for blinking cursor?
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perryflynn next step will be to make it work on mobile.
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aaronpk @keyframes cursor-blink { 0% { opacity: 0; } }
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aaronpk .cursor { animation: cursor-blink 1.5s steps(2) infinite; }
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perryflynn aaronpk: it was a active decision to not make it blink. IMHO blinking distracts too much.
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[artlung] Community member and local San Diegan rosipov wrote a book about vim. https://rosipov.com/blog/about/
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Loqi [preview] Ruslan Osipov
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