#dev 2025-08-16
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[social] Governments often are regulating the state of what was, not what is.
# [tantek]2 I think the lack of internet oversight has always been incentivized by not getting in the way of (i.e. stifling) economic innovation
# [social] Agreed, and that often is a good thing.
# [social] The ITU model of a guidance and bounds for good practices (flooding neighboring countries telecom networks and internet guidelines and boundaries) could work in situations like the incessant and heavy scraping practices.
# [social] A lot of the difficult / wicked problems from global telecom and internet issues are still getting worked through as things change and shift some 30+ years later.
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# [tantek]2 there are also counter-incentives, e.g. governments tend to like surveillance (so any body made up of govs will reach consensus on that) while individuals prefer privacy.
# [social] Yep. Getting the balance right is essential.
# [tantek]2 not clear there is a "good" balance. historical attempts at that (e.g. Clipper chip) have been problematic / technically flawed
# [tantek]2 but this is getting way off anything indieweb-specific so perhaps #indieweb-random for more on that
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# formercanaanite thinking about switching around my website from node/react to GO/htmx, for the experience but also because it's frankly a bit complex as it is now, anyone using htmx on the indieweb?
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# [tantek]2 What is htmx
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "htmx" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "htmx is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek]2 Looks like no
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