#dev 2025-08-18

2025-08-18 UTC
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imsanana I've been implementing atproto/bluesky login for indielogin and I noticed that very little of the actual process involves bluesky stuff
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imsanana I think a very simple indieweb atproto lexicon equivalent to rel=me links on one's profile would be really awesome and would allow non-bluesky atproto users to authenticate
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imsanana "type": "Link",
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imsanana {
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imsanana ```json
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imsanana Basically imagine this in the user's PDS
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imsanana "rel": "me",
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imsanana "href": "https://example.com"
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imsanana }
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imsanana ```
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imsanana this could probably used for stuff that isn't indieweb and isn't rel=me
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doesnm @imsanana your idea looks like https://blog.anew.social/bridging-identity-with-account-links/
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imsanana ooo right DID documents have alsoKnownAs
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imsanana alsoKnownAs covers the indielogin use case but it's right, it doesn't have rel=canonical or similar
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imsanana and updating the DID document is hell if you have enrolled your own keys
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doesnm why? also i like one quote from silverpill: did:plc is a joke xD https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/nomadic-identity-for-the-fediverse/2101/43
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doesnm when i tried bsky i used did:web where my pds are controlled keys
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[snarfed] so I'm looking at mf2 for u-quotation-of
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[snarfed] right now Bridgy Fed is emitting it as an h-cite with the quoted URL in u-uid, which I guess is maybe wrong, and http://webmention.io doesn't like, but I'm not sure exactly what to make the quoted URL instead. u-url?
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[snarfed] eg https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https://bsky.brid.gy/convert/web/at://did:plc:o75jmubw72ejzhl2rqvgkev4/app.bsky.feed.post/3lwo6sfwn7s2k%23bridgy-fed-create , https://webmention.io/rawr.fun/webmention/glNvDc965aAXTgbp0-n6
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[snarfed] wiki: https://indieweb.org/quotation#How_to
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[snarfed] wiki implies that the link to the quoted URL doesn't necessarily need mf2 at all...?
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[snarfed] [aaronpk] I'm not sure if BF is wrong here, or http://wm.io, or both?
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[tantek] [snarfed] good catch. that nested hyperlink inside the h-cite to the source should have u-url
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[tantek] updated the How to
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[tantek] [snarfed]++
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[snarfed] aha thanks
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[mattl] I’ve been wary about Hetzner, I heard they can be a little trigger happy to ban people with new servers.
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capjamesg I initially chose them because I heard they were cheaper. I have had generally good service, except my server has gone down twice near Christmas.
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.pi.r2. oh did they explain why?
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[mattl] For a significant amount of time?
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.pi.r2. or could it have been a panic and reboot?
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capjamesg They checked the host system and didn't find any issues, so asked me to check my logs.
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capjamesg I didn't see anything but I'm not an expert with Linux so I wasn't sure what to look for.
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capjamesg I think I just had to restart the server in their web app, or maybe it was already restarted and back on. I can't really remember.
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capjamesg I'm waiting to see if it happens again this year.
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[mattl] Does your server uptime look correct?
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.pi.r2. ident.ne has been crazy stable. srv.us too. all xmit.dev servers always up. zero troubles with a few dedicated servers at work (they took tons of load)
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.pi.r2. ident.me sorry
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capjamesg Yeah. I can't say my experience is representative. I haven't heard issues from anyone else.
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carrvo capjamesg[d] thought I would mention that Creative Commons explicitly (can't remember where) mentions that their licenses cannot apply to source code. I don't know about CC0 specifically, but it is something to keep in mind. I found a good text for public domain on https://choosealicense.com/