#dev 2025-12-10
2025-12-10 UTC
#
[Al_Abut] Whoa, that’s so cool. Are you using youtube as a personal player? Kottke made something like that and I’d be noodling on something similar if I wasn’t already so backlogged with photo-related projects:
#
[Al_Abut] One of my resolutions for the new year is to create way more indieweb events, whether as popups or monthly series, mostly focused on content and vibe instead of the underlying tech. E.g. photos, books, movies, etc. There could be a great one for music too! Our photo discussion took a turn towards all kinds of mediums.
troojg joined the channel
#
[Al_Abut] There’s a couple of people on Mastodon that are always sharing cool new music, like Nick
#
[Al_Abut] [tantek] hmm, I can see that in other contexts but I don’t think it applies to the mental model I’m developing for this type of series. Congratulations though, you found a rare edge case where using a term like “user-centric” probably isn’t that user-centric, haha.
#
[Al_Abut] I liked how people I’ve never seen before at an HWC or other zoom popped up on the photo popup, pulled in from Bluesky and Mastodon. I’m just following this hunch that maybe this “go to market strategy” of focusing on the types of media might do more of that.
#
[Al_Abut] So maybe not the full-on prototypical newbies of people making their first blog, but the Slack-adjacent groups of people who are big fans of the indieweb movement in principle and newbie in the sense of needing to be encouraged to come out of the woodwork to an event.
#
[Al_Abut] Remember me saying a few months ago that as this next IWCSD was coming up, I felt my mind drifting back to the very first session of the first one two years ago, where we talked about newbies and I shared my journey of how the HWC Pacific calls were my gateway drug? This might be the second part of that rumination on doing something about getting more people involved.
#
[Al_Abut] I do remember saying back in 2023 that async video could be helpful, short little sub 1 min explainers. There’s enough of the hour plus conference talks for those that are sold already and deep into the rabbit hole.
#
[Al_Abut] E.g. one of my potential projects for this weekend is to do the thing we talked about at HWC last week - a 30-60 second explainer of why microformats over RSS.
#
[Al_Abut] You and Gregor blew my hair back about that topic last week
#
[Al_Abut] Oh I'm sure it’s not, haha
#
[Al_Abut] I'm about to get even more arrogant than usual but this feels like the kind of challenge I’ve had at so many workplaces that end up being totally explainable
#
[Al_Abut] Ha
#
[Al_Abut] I was just typing one of the major pitfalls for people when they try short explainers and you demonstrated it. Lemme copy past: the key is to focus on clarity, not comprehensiveness.
#
[Al_Abut] Trying to explain every topic of every meeting is the very definition of comprehensiveness
#
[Al_Abut] How do you do it? You don’t. You pick your battles.
#
[Al_Abut] Those battles being a combo of 1) whatever’s most important to explain, and even more importantly, 2) whatever you know you can explain clearly.
#
[Al_Abut] So right now I’ve got a short script in mind for the microformats vs rss, I can easily imagine an overall one for indieweb (make your own website, be independent from large corporate control, carve out your own little patch on the internet, etc, not getting into the weeds with webmentions or whatever)
#
[Al_Abut] And then it grows from there.
#
[Al_Abut] Oops, I just gave myself a 2026 vlogging challenge, haha
#
[Al_Abut] It's the kind of thing that’s easier to show rather than tell. I’ll scope it down to seeing if I can shoot 2-3 good ones this weekend.
#
gRegor [artlung], looks like it worked well! https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrd_RuaBCiaWgjPUFndcwZ6TDq-0nwhje&si=v88-50qCHx5dteUu
#
[Al_Abut] Whoa, very fun.
barnaby joined the channel
jeremycherfas, Pixi`, jonnybarnes1, vikanezrimaya, lain`, barnaby, geoffo_, Pixi__, _dissolve22[d], doesnm_, rhiaro_, IWDiscord, girlonthemoon, Dryusdan, jak2k, troojg and grufwub joined the channel
#
[aciccarello] I just created an account with Deezer this week and used https://soundiiz.com/ to transfer
bret, adamsaun-, adamsaun|, adamsaunders, gRegor, [snarfed], GuestZero, DanQ, jeremych-, vidak, barnaby and sebbu joined the channel
#
[Al_Abut] [aciccarello] I'm curious - why the switch?
#
[aciccarello] I was using the free YouTube music with ads before. My friend just got a friends and family plan with Deezer and shared access
#
[aciccarello] He was hoping to write an integration with their API but then learned they aren't allowing more apps to use the authenticated API...
thegreekgeek, [benatwork], to2ds, bret and gRegor joined the channel
#
[Al_Abut] Ah, that makes sense. I've had the ad-free youtube since it was called red instead of premium and I love it. I'd probably get rid of every single other streaming service including live sports before I let that one go.
#
[Al_Abut] At least for video. I've been a satisfied customer of Apple Music since its inception too.
barnaby and bterry2 joined the channel
#
itskalvaxus Found someones site on neocities and it said it uses Javascript.. It didn't look like it at all. But they've found a way to include headers and footers, by loading it via XHR.. which is an interesting thing to me. Is it unorthodox, yes a little. Do they have many other options on pure static site, not really no?
bret joined the channel
[eri], adamsaun-, SnS25, [KevinMarks], DanQ and CrimeWave joined the channel
