#dev 2026-06-19

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aaronpk Is there an html input tag attribute that can request a downscaled version of a photo from the client? Seems like it could be a useful feature
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tellroboxer https://hoovygoblin.neocities.org/ this is my first real indie website
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tellroboxer If anybody objects to the site content I will immediately remove it
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[tantek] aaronpk, do you have a specific use-case in mind? I don't know about "downscaled", however I could see a user wanting to upload a custom "thumbnail" (of lower resolution or cropped) when uploading a photo
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aaronpk My phone takes huge photos, and I really don't need a 10mb 27megapixel photo on my website, so every time I upload a photo I go into the photo app UI and choose a downscaled version
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aaronpk Uploading a 2mb photo is still good enough quality for me and uploads a ton faster
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aaronpk Which is particularly relevant when I'm traveling and have limited data plan or signal
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[tantek] Who should make the decision that a "2mb photo is good enough"?
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[tantek] Like is this something the site should communicate explicitly in markup (either "good enough" or a size/resolution limit?)
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[tantek] Or is it something the user should always have the option to do in the browser, like in the file picker dialog, choose from a popup to opt-in downsize or downscale a selected image file?
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[tantek] I can see arguments for both / either
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[tantek] In the latter case, no markup needed, that's more of a browser UI feature request (also reasonable)
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turalyon sorry if this seems like a newbie question, but how does someon creates a "webring"? I assume that you curate a txt file of firendly websites and then use some javascript to direct your visitors to one of them randomly, right?
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[capjamesg] Newbie questions are always okay here!
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[capjamesg] What is a webring?
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Loqi A webring is a collection of websites linked together in a circular structure; check out the indiewebring, a webring across IndieWeb sites and blogs https://indieweb.org/webring
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[capjamesg] This page may help you ^^
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[capjamesg] A webring is a ring because all the sites link to each other.
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[capjamesg] Usually webrings have a form that you can fill out to join, although some groups of friends have webrings exclusive to them too.
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turalyon Oh I see, so I could create my own webring by displaying a form and inviting others to submit their websites? I guess I should manually approve to not to let any NSFW content or risky stuff like porn etc
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turalyon I need to rollout a backend for my website, I've been postponing it during so much time haha
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[capjamesg] Exactly.
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turalyon Thanks for the explanation
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[capjamesg] Happy to help!
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[jeremycherfas] I like that when I sharing a photo by email in iOS I get asked what size image I want to send.
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[rose] [aaronpk] There‘s the reduced data preference, but it's sadly not widely supported. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/At-rules/@media/prefers-reduced-data
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[tantek] [jeremycherfas] could you share/upload a screenshot of that UI for picking the size?
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[jeremycherfas] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2026/06/dev-20260619-163108-img_0221.png
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[capjamesg] I do wish that preference were supported.
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[jeremycherfas] Sorry, rushing out, unable to wiki, but please free to use any way you choose.
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[tantek] That looks very cool. I'd maybe blur the domain but yeah worth uploading
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[tantek] aaronpk ^ would that option in a file image upload dialog work for your usecase?
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[jeremycherfas] Will do. Which page? I've lost track.
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[KevinMarks] This is an interesting explanation of why atproto is Web-shaped https://overreacted.io/there-are-no-instances-in-atproto/
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[KevinMarks] That size dialogue is like the Flickr one. It also reminds me of QuickTime that had export options labelled "web" "CD-Rom" and something along the lines of "TV"
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gRegor !tell artlung I think the h-card on your indienews bookmark got messed up. Not a problem for the newsletter, it shows up fine, but I saw in the stream channel it shared your bookmark without your name attached https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fartlung.com%2Findienews%2F1836993ab4858d723762dd46fd9e9a83
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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turalyon got working visitor count and real time geolocation (by timezone, no ip spoofing) phew
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turalyon gRegor: I need to read about this, h-cards seems like another interesting concept
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gRegor turalyon: https://indiewebify.me has some validator tools that will walk you through adding the h-card markup to your site. It's pretty cool, and h-cards can be as simple as one `a href`
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gRegor What is h-card?
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Loqi h-card is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up people, organizations, and venues on web sites, and supersedes hCard https://indieweb.org/h-card
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[artlung] gRegor for bookmarked indienews posts I consciously chose to remove anything smacking of author metadata. I don't want any potential misinterpretation of a claim of authorship.
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Loqi [artlung]: gRegor left you a message 2 hours, 20 minutes ago: I think the h-card on your indienews bookmark got messed up. Not a problem for the newsletter, it shows up fine, but I saw in the stream channel it shared your bookmark without your name attached https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fartlung.com%2Findienews%2F1836993ab4858d723762dd46fd9e9a83
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gRegor There's a stray h-card in there still, though it just has site contents, nothing about you
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gRegor Though indienews is good about diffentiating author of the bookmark post vs what's being bookmarked
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gRegor Ah, not as the author. I see what you mean.
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