#dev 2026-07-15

2026-07-15 UTC
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[social] I started using PHP in 3.2 in early 2000, moving what we built off perl and an experiment with ColdFusion.
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lecaseus Hiya, just a quick unrelated question, do personal sites have a sitemap html, xml, or both?
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lecaseus I currently have both in mine but I’m thinking of removing the xml since I don’t really care much for crawler discoverability
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[artlung] Personal sites, and all sites, can have either or both or neither. https://indieweb.org/sitemap goes into detail about how folks treat site maps.
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[Trevor_Morris] [artlung] it seems you have a PHP error on https://artlung.com/firehose/
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[artlung] [Trevor_Morris] I appreciate the heads up! Fixed! Thanks! [Trevor_Morris]++
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[capjamesg] [artlung] https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/116923884482164476is fun!
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WinnerWind i personally dont have a sitemap because i think that my website is intuitive enough with the new design, so i could gut it out entirely. all the other parts of my site are purely for personal use, so they dont need to be part of the sitemap
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thamara_k kenomatik[d]++ new version of Discuss up and running. I haven't done any styling yet but all looks straightforward, I will look at it over the next few days.
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Zegnat [capjamesg]: oh, nice tip, I am definitely adding that to my <del> styling.
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Zegnat I think the way the default for strikethrough is the line starting together with the letter obfuscates it a bit on the first letter, e.g. on the "s" here: https://zegnat.bearblog.dev/shorts-are-videos-but-videos-are-not-shorts-more-youtube-urls/
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[capjamesg] Yeah, it is neat!
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[capjamesg] The video mentions using text decoration to put a line above text. I wonder what use cases that has.
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[capjamesg] Or whether said use cases are primarily aesthetic.
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[pcarrier] any small free service you wish existed but couldn't find? ;)
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[artlung] many uses for overlines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overline
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[capjamesg] [pcarrier] Not necessarily a service but I wish I could have a private blog that only friends could see.
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[pcarrier] [capjamesg] sounds well within your technical means, what's holding you back?
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[artlung] When I take notes I have one medical documentation quirk I can't seem to get rid of - a "c" with a line over it = "with"
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[capjamesg] [artlung]++
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[capjamesg] [pcarrier] I have implemented it but I’m never sure if people would read…
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[capjamesg] It feels then more like a social/culture thing to think about than engineering now that I consider it.
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[pcarrier] the interesting stuff 🙂 IDK I'd read more my network's private posts as long as there's a feed or mailing list (I'd probably lean toward the latter personally)
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[tantek] indeed, I think it's a matter of user convenience, both posting and viewing. IG's "close friends only" stories are a good example
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[tantek] the other variant(s) that's interesting (as in I've used on IG, would use on my personal site) is "signed-in folks *except* for a short list", or even "usual 'close friends' except for a short list, for this post/story in particular"
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WinnerWind did something really bold. Wrote a few proxy functions for my static site generator so that the static site author can make network requests from within Jinja templates. As an example, I made it render an XKCD comic using an ID. (The source content contains {{{XKCD|id=1253}}}
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WinnerWind https://x0.at/cGlA.png
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[schmarty] it's possible that i really dislike the new PHP URI/URL APIs!!! specifically, the WhatWG implementation sounds good for IndieWeb projects because it is "mostly relevant in the web browser context" and "deals with URLs, rather than URIs."
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[schmarty] however, the WhatWG implementation doesn't decode percent-encoded strings in any parts of URLs except the hostname, which seems like it's passing the buck on normalizing some goofy urls? https://wiki.php.net/rfc/url_parsing_api#basic_examples
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[schmarty] (compared there with the RFC 3986 implementation, which handles URIs and not just URLs and therefore is more loosey-goosey overall, doesn't support unicode, but _does_ normalize percent-encoded strings)
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gRegor [schmarty] have you checked out sabre/uri? https://sabre.io/uri/
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gRegor I quite like it, though haven't done much with percent-encoded strings
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Zegnat I guess that is how browsers do it. Huh. Never thought about that.
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Zegnat Ie. if you have something percent encoded in the URL you browser to, and you check window.location, it has not decoded any of it
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[tantek] URI-- URL++
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[schmarty] gRegor++ thanks! I'm leaning towards using https://uri.thephpleague.com/ maybe
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